It's Official: Canada can do nothing to stop climate change.
OnTheIce @ Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:16 pm
Based on the report today from the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Canada is responsible for 2% of emmissions which cause global warming.
To break it down, we could take all the cars off Canadian streets, close down every electricity plant and kill off 30 million people and climate change would still occur.
So, although it's good to keep our environment clean and safe, to participate in Kyoto was a huge mistake.
Always4Iggy @ Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:27 pm
OnTheIce OnTheIce:
Based on the report today from the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Canada is responsible for 2% of emmissions which cause global warming.
To break it down, we could take all the cars off Canadian streets, close down every electricity plant and kill off 30 million people and climate change would still occur.
So, although it's good to keep our environment clean and safe, to participate in Kyoto was a huge mistake.
To break it down, we could take all the cars off Canadian streets, close down every electricity plant and kill off 30 million people and climate change would still occur.
So, although it's good to keep our environment clean and safe, to participate in Kyoto was a huge mistake.
We need not kill 30 million, we could just kill the conservatives.
OnTheIce @ Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:29 pm
Always4Iggy Always4Iggy:
OnTheIce OnTheIce:
Based on the report today from the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Canada is responsible for 2% of emmissions which cause global warming.
To break it down, we could take all the cars off Canadian streets, close down every electricity plant and kill off 30 million people and climate change would still occur.
So, although it's good to keep our environment clean and safe, to participate in Kyoto was a huge mistake.
To break it down, we could take all the cars off Canadian streets, close down every electricity plant and kill off 30 million people and climate change would still occur.
So, although it's good to keep our environment clean and safe, to participate in Kyoto was a huge mistake.
We need not kill 30 million, we could just kill the conservatives.
As always, I appreciate your intelligent debate.
xerxes @ Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:39 pm
That's an awfully lazy attitude. If other countries start to reduce their emissions even our minor contribution will be beneficial.
fire_i @ Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:40 pm
We can't do a damn thing alone, but there are 210+ countries in this world. If everyone goes "We can't change things", then there will be no change. If 5 countries like Canada decide to act, then *up to* (the emphasis is important) 10% of climate change can be virtually canceled. If all "small polluters" of the world decide to act, we get what, 65% ?
But if everybody follows that mentality, the mentality that "it's not our fault because others do worse", then we can't get better.
You know what this makes me think of?
"It's not my fault, it's society."
"Why would I be punished for theft if OJ could kill his wife and get away with it?"
"We gangbanged her but I shouldn't be punished because I wasn't the one to do the worse things."
neopundit @ Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:43 pm
Well, now that climate change has become generally accepted, its critics need another argument. This is it.
Always4Iggy @ Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:47 pm
OnTheIce OnTheIce:
Based on the report today from the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Canada is responsible for 2% of emmissions which cause global warming.
To break it down, we could take all the cars off Canadian streets, close down every electricity plant and kill off 30 million people and climate change would still occur.
So, although it's good to keep our environment clean and safe, to participate in Kyoto was a huge mistake.
To break it down, we could take all the cars off Canadian streets, close down every electricity plant and kill off 30 million people and climate change would still occur.
So, although it's good to keep our environment clean and safe, to participate in Kyoto was a huge mistake.
Always4Iggy Always4Iggy:
We need not kill 30 million, we could just kill the conservatives.
OnTheIce OnTheIce:
As always, I appreciate your intelligent debate.
Is this an intelligent debate?
You pretend that the information you have has just come to your knowledge, and that the UN actually lets Canada off the hook, due to their small contribution to the problem.
Listen, brainless con prick, we all know from about a hundred years ago exactly what Canada's share of the total is. Only a syphilitic brain like yours would keep harping on the 2% number, just as ridenrain's equally infected brain harps on the payments to china, to the glee of the gonorrhea infected redneck.
What you have to talk about is what the share per person is, and not the total.
If you want intelligent replies, show it in your posts.
sandorski @ Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:51 pm
neopundit neopundit:
Well, now that climate change has become generally accepted, its critics need another argument. This is it.
hehe, pretty much.
Like Rex Murphy said last night(paraphrased): Even if Canada going it alone can't even put a dent in CO2 emissions, the mere fact that we try gives Moral Weight that may convince others to also cut their emissions.
PluggyRug @ Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:30 pm
Always4Iggy Always4Iggy:
OnTheIce OnTheIce:
Based on the report today from the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Canada is responsible for 2% of emmissions which cause global warming.
To break it down, we could take all the cars off Canadian streets, close down every electricity plant and kill off 30 million people and climate change would still occur.
So, although it's good to keep our environment clean and safe, to participate in Kyoto was a huge mistake.
To break it down, we could take all the cars off Canadian streets, close down every electricity plant and kill off 30 million people and climate change would still occur.
So, although it's good to keep our environment clean and safe, to participate in Kyoto was a huge mistake.
Always4Iggy Always4Iggy:
We need not kill 30 million, we could just kill the conservatives.
OnTheIce OnTheIce:
As always, I appreciate your intelligent debate.
Is this an intelligent debate?
You pretend that the information you have has just come to your knowledge, and that the UN actually lets Canada off the hook, due to their small contribution to the problem.
Listen, brainless con prick, we all know from about a hundred years ago exactly what Canada's share of the total is. Only a syphilitic brain like yours would keep harping on the 2% number, just as ridenrain's equally infected brain harps on the payments to china, to the glee of the gonorrhea infected redneck.
What you have to talk about is what the share per person is, and not the total.
If you want intelligent replies, show it in your posts.
It started off intelligent as On-The-Ice was quoting a recent report.
Then you opened your stupid mouth and brought in politics (I could hear it from my workshop).
So stay out and let real people have a debate..or better still..follow your sig the letter.
You alone are the major contributor to bad gas emmisions.
OnTheIce @ Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:51 pm
Always4Iggy Always4Iggy:
OnTheIce OnTheIce:
Based on the report today from the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Canada is responsible for 2% of emmissions which cause global warming.
To break it down, we could take all the cars off Canadian streets, close down every electricity plant and kill off 30 million people and climate change would still occur.
So, although it's good to keep our environment clean and safe, to participate in Kyoto was a huge mistake.
To break it down, we could take all the cars off Canadian streets, close down every electricity plant and kill off 30 million people and climate change would still occur.
So, although it's good to keep our environment clean and safe, to participate in Kyoto was a huge mistake.
Always4Iggy Always4Iggy:
We need not kill 30 million, we could just kill the conservatives.
OnTheIce OnTheIce:
As always, I appreciate your intelligent debate.
Is this an intelligent debate?
You pretend that the information you have has just come to your knowledge, and that the UN actually lets Canada off the hook, due to their small contribution to the problem.
Listen, brainless con prick, we all know from about a hundred years ago exactly what Canada's share of the total is. Only a syphilitic brain like yours would keep harping on the 2% number, just as ridenrain's equally infected brain harps on the payments to china, to the glee of the gonorrhea infected redneck.
What you have to talk about is what the share per person is, and not the total.
If you want intelligent replies, show it in your posts.
I keep harping on the 2%?. Let's see how long it takes you to find me reference to that ever on this forum. You won't find it, you stump.
Having you call me brainless is quite amusing to say the least considering you're the only CKA member who's had numerous lobotomies.
fire_i, I respect your opinion but my main point of the argument is how flawed Kyoto is. The major contributors to climate change aren't part of the treaty. So in short, the treaty ignores the vast majority of the problem.
Always4Iggy @ Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:17 pm
OnTheIce OnTheIce:
Based on the report today from the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Canada is responsible for 2% of emmissions which cause global warming.
To break it down, we could take all the cars off Canadian streets, close down every electricity plant and kill off 30 million people and climate change would still occur.
So, although it's good to keep our environment clean and safe, to participate in Kyoto was a huge mistake.
To break it down, we could take all the cars off Canadian streets, close down every electricity plant and kill off 30 million people and climate change would still occur.
So, although it's good to keep our environment clean and safe, to participate in Kyoto was a huge mistake.
Always4Iggy Always4Iggy:
We need not kill 30 million, we could just kill the conservatives.
OnTheIce OnTheIce:
As always, I appreciate your intelligent debate.
Always4Iggy Always4Iggy:
Is this an intelligent debate?
You pretend that the information you have has just come to your knowledge, and that the UN actually lets Canada off the hook, due to their small contribution to the problem.
Listen, brainless con prick, we all know from about a hundred years ago exactly what Canada's share of the total is. Only a syphilitic brain like yours would keep harping on the 2% number, just as ridenrain's equally infected brain harps on the payments to china, to the glee of the gonorrhea infected redneck.
What you have to talk about is what the share per person is, and not the total.
If you want intelligent replies, show it in your posts.
You pretend that the information you have has just come to your knowledge, and that the UN actually lets Canada off the hook, due to their small contribution to the problem.
Listen, brainless con prick, we all know from about a hundred years ago exactly what Canada's share of the total is. Only a syphilitic brain like yours would keep harping on the 2% number, just as ridenrain's equally infected brain harps on the payments to china, to the glee of the gonorrhea infected redneck.
What you have to talk about is what the share per person is, and not the total.
If you want intelligent replies, show it in your posts.
OnTheIce OnTheIce:
I keep harping on the 2%?. Let's see how long it takes you to find me reference to that ever on this forum. You won't find it, you stump.
Having you call me brainless is quite amusing to say the least considering you're the only CKA member who's had numerous lobotomies.
fire_i, I respect your opinion but my main point of the argument is how flawed Kyoto is. The major contributors to climate change aren't part of the treaty. So in short, the treaty ignores the vast majority of the problem.
Having you call me brainless is quite amusing to say the least considering you're the only CKA member who's had numerous lobotomies.
fire_i, I respect your opinion but my main point of the argument is how flawed Kyoto is. The major contributors to climate change aren't part of the treaty. So in short, the treaty ignores the vast majority of the problem.
That is not the main point of your argument. Here is your argument:
OnTheIce OnTheIce:
It's Official: Canada can do nothing to stop climate change.
Based on the report today from the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Canada is responsible for 2% of emmissions which cause global warming.
To break it down, we could take all the cars off Canadian streets, close down every electricity plant and kill off 30 million people and climate change would still occur.
So, although it's good to keep our environment clean and safe, to participate in Kyoto was a huge mistake.
Based on the report today from the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Canada is responsible for 2% of emmissions which cause global warming.
To break it down, we could take all the cars off Canadian streets, close down every electricity plant and kill off 30 million people and climate change would still occur.
So, although it's good to keep our environment clean and safe, to participate in Kyoto was a huge mistake.
That is a fake argument, since:
a. You imply that the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change says Canada can do nothing. That is a false statement.
b. You imply that the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, because it found that Canada contributes only 2%, it has let us off the hook. The facts are quite the opposite.
c. You imply that we need to stop driving and have less people.
d. You imply that the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change feels that our contribution in Kyoto was unnecessary, if not 'a huge mistake'.
In short, you show all symptoms of a syphilitic brain.
ShepherdsDog @ Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:26 pm
While humanity has exacerbated the shift in climate, this is hardly the first time that the Earth has experienced a warming trend, nor is it the warmest that it has ever been. During the Eocene, Earth had an almost uniform tropical climate from pole to pole. This was 60 - 63 million years ago, a mere blink in geological terms.
OnTheIce @ Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:33 pm
Always4Iggy Always4Iggy:
OnTheIce OnTheIce:
Based on the report today from the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Canada is responsible for 2% of emmissions which cause global warming.
To break it down, we could take all the cars off Canadian streets, close down every electricity plant and kill off 30 million people and climate change would still occur.
So, although it's good to keep our environment clean and safe, to participate in Kyoto was a huge mistake.
To break it down, we could take all the cars off Canadian streets, close down every electricity plant and kill off 30 million people and climate change would still occur.
So, although it's good to keep our environment clean and safe, to participate in Kyoto was a huge mistake.
Always4Iggy Always4Iggy:
We need not kill 30 million, we could just kill the conservatives.
OnTheIce OnTheIce:
As always, I appreciate your intelligent debate.
Always4Iggy Always4Iggy:
Is this an intelligent debate?
You pretend that the information you have has just come to your knowledge, and that the UN actually lets Canada off the hook, due to their small contribution to the problem.
Listen, brainless con prick, we all know from about a hundred years ago exactly what Canada's share of the total is. Only a syphilitic brain like yours would keep harping on the 2% number, just as ridenrain's equally infected brain harps on the payments to china, to the glee of the gonorrhea infected redneck.
What you have to talk about is what the share per person is, and not the total.
If you want intelligent replies, show it in your posts.
You pretend that the information you have has just come to your knowledge, and that the UN actually lets Canada off the hook, due to their small contribution to the problem.
Listen, brainless con prick, we all know from about a hundred years ago exactly what Canada's share of the total is. Only a syphilitic brain like yours would keep harping on the 2% number, just as ridenrain's equally infected brain harps on the payments to china, to the glee of the gonorrhea infected redneck.
What you have to talk about is what the share per person is, and not the total.
If you want intelligent replies, show it in your posts.
OnTheIce OnTheIce:
I keep harping on the 2%?. Let's see how long it takes you to find me reference to that ever on this forum. You won't find it, you stump.
Having you call me brainless is quite amusing to say the least considering you're the only CKA member who's had numerous lobotomies.
fire_i, I respect your opinion but my main point of the argument is how flawed Kyoto is. The major contributors to climate change aren't part of the treaty. So in short, the treaty ignores the vast majority of the problem.
Having you call me brainless is quite amusing to say the least considering you're the only CKA member who's had numerous lobotomies.
fire_i, I respect your opinion but my main point of the argument is how flawed Kyoto is. The major contributors to climate change aren't part of the treaty. So in short, the treaty ignores the vast majority of the problem.
That is not the main point of your argument. Here is your argument:
OnTheIce OnTheIce:
It's Official: Canada can do nothing to stop climate change.
Based on the report today from the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Canada is responsible for 2% of emmissions which cause global warming.
To break it down, we could take all the cars off Canadian streets, close down every electricity plant and kill off 30 million people and climate change would still occur.
So, although it's good to keep our environment clean and safe, to participate in Kyoto was a huge mistake.
Based on the report today from the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Canada is responsible for 2% of emmissions which cause global warming.
To break it down, we could take all the cars off Canadian streets, close down every electricity plant and kill off 30 million people and climate change would still occur.
So, although it's good to keep our environment clean and safe, to participate in Kyoto was a huge mistake.
That is a fake argument, since:
a. You imply that the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change says Canada can do nothing. That is a false statement.
b. You imply that the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, because it found that Canada contributes only 2%, it has let us off the hook. The facts are quite the opposite.
c. You imply that we need to stop driving and have less people.
d. You imply that the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change feels that our contribution in Kyoto was unnecessary, if not 'a huge mistake'.
In short, you show all symptoms of a syphilitic brain.
Why are you unable to converse in a post like an adult? Your opinions are facts, our opinions are "false". You never stay on topic rather you go off insulting people, as if that makes up for your shortcomings.
Try and converse and debate like a man. Not like a Liberal, not like a man that's had numerous operations on his brain, like a man.
Try it. It's fun.
SJ-24 @ Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:43 pm
Well, if the Liberals had of done something when this first came up ten years ago, we wouldn't be in this situation. Thus, it's the Liberal Party of Canada's fault we are all going to die....oh my God! Were all going to die.... 
Why oh why! Why are we going to die! Dam nthose Liberals to hell. It's all there fault.......
In the words of my great grandfather, "We all have to die from something!". 
Always4Iggy @ Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:44 pm
OnTheIce OnTheIce:
Based on the report today from the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Canada is responsible for 2% of emmissions which cause global warming.
To break it down, we could take all the cars off Canadian streets, close down every electricity plant and kill off 30 million people and climate change would still occur.
So, although it's good to keep our environment clean and safe, to participate in Kyoto was a huge mistake.
To break it down, we could take all the cars off Canadian streets, close down every electricity plant and kill off 30 million people and climate change would still occur.
So, although it's good to keep our environment clean and safe, to participate in Kyoto was a huge mistake.
Always4Iggy Always4Iggy:
We need not kill 30 million, we could just kill the conservatives.
OnTheIce OnTheIce:
As always, I appreciate your intelligent debate.
Always4Iggy Always4Iggy:
Is this an intelligent debate?
You pretend that the information you have has just come to your knowledge, and that the UN actually lets Canada off the hook, due to their small contribution to the problem.
Listen, brainless con prick, we all know from about a hundred years ago exactly what Canada's share of the total is. Only a syphilitic brain like yours would keep harping on the 2% number, just as ridenrain's equally infected brain harps on the payments to china, to the glee of the gonorrhea infected redneck.
What you have to talk about is what the share per person is, and not the total.
If you want intelligent replies, show it in your posts.
You pretend that the information you have has just come to your knowledge, and that the UN actually lets Canada off the hook, due to their small contribution to the problem.
Listen, brainless con prick, we all know from about a hundred years ago exactly what Canada's share of the total is. Only a syphilitic brain like yours would keep harping on the 2% number, just as ridenrain's equally infected brain harps on the payments to china, to the glee of the gonorrhea infected redneck.
What you have to talk about is what the share per person is, and not the total.
If you want intelligent replies, show it in your posts.
OnTheIce OnTheIce:
I keep harping on the 2%?. Let's see how long it takes you to find me reference to that ever on this forum. You won't find it, you stump.
Having you call me brainless is quite amusing to say the least considering you're the only CKA member who's had numerous lobotomies.
fire_i, I respect your opinion but my main point of the argument is how flawed Kyoto is. The major contributors to climate change aren't part of the treaty. So in short, the treaty ignores the vast majority of the problem.
Having you call me brainless is quite amusing to say the least considering you're the only CKA member who's had numerous lobotomies.
fire_i, I respect your opinion but my main point of the argument is how flawed Kyoto is. The major contributors to climate change aren't part of the treaty. So in short, the treaty ignores the vast majority of the problem.
Always4Iggy Always4Iggy:
That is not the main point of your argument. Here is your argument:
That is a fake argument, since:
a. You imply that the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change says Canada can do nothing. That is a false statement.
b. You imply that the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, because it found that Canada contributes only 2%, it has let us off the hook. The facts are quite the opposite.
c. You imply that we need to stop driving and have less people.
d. You imply that the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change feels that our contribution in Kyoto was unnecessary, if not 'a huge mistake'.
OnTheIce OnTheIce:
It's Official: Canada can do nothing to stop climate change.
Based on the report today from the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Canada is responsible for 2% of emmissions which cause global warming.
To break it down, we could take all the cars off Canadian streets, close down every electricity plant and kill off 30 million people and climate change would still occur.
So, although it's good to keep our environment clean and safe, to participate in Kyoto was a huge mistake.
Based on the report today from the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Canada is responsible for 2% of emmissions which cause global warming.
To break it down, we could take all the cars off Canadian streets, close down every electricity plant and kill off 30 million people and climate change would still occur.
So, although it's good to keep our environment clean and safe, to participate in Kyoto was a huge mistake.
That is a fake argument, since:
a. You imply that the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change says Canada can do nothing. That is a false statement.
b. You imply that the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, because it found that Canada contributes only 2%, it has let us off the hook. The facts are quite the opposite.
c. You imply that we need to stop driving and have less people.
d. You imply that the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change feels that our contribution in Kyoto was unnecessary, if not 'a huge mistake'.
OnTheIce OnTheIce:
Your opinions are facts, our opinions are "false". You never stay on topic rather you go off insulting people, as if that makes up for your shortcomings.
What is false is when you present YOUR old and tired conservative opinions as if the UN has sanctioned them.
I have my opinions as a Liberal.
You have yours as a conservative.
You pretend that suddenly yours have become the official UN opinion! That is no longer an opioion that anyone can hold.
The fact of the matter is that the UN has supported every argument that myself, Avro, Zipperfish and others make here and has rejected every one that you conservatives ever made against global warming science.