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JT didn't accidentally say anything here. I think you've missed the statement that clearly went over like a lead balloon in the HOC.

The comment in question was his first statement. No error. No slip of the tongue. This is what JT is looking for, class warfare and that comment that "Benefiting every single family isn't fair.." will come off terribly when repeated in the media and in the CPC ads that will come pre-election.

   

The CPC attack ads aren't working. Probably because of petty stuff like this. As Thanos said, there are actual real issues here and this just makes the Conservatives look petty and vindictive.

   

I already sent an e-mail to the main CPC website. I told them that after close to thirty years of voting for Conservatives I wouldn't be doing so in the next election, mainly because of them selling the remains of the Wheat Board to a Saudi backed company. I said that if they allow business that are owned by companies that are based in countries that declared economic war on Canada, the way the Saudis have over the last year with them glutting the oil market, then the Conservatives don't care about Canadians at all and they don't deserve to form the government again.

I also told them that I was one of the hundred thousand, or more, formerly reliable conservative-minded voters that just voted for the Alberta NDP because we were so pissed off at the way conservative parties have turned their backs on people like us. I wrapped it up and reminded them that if Fortress Alberta fell to the most non-conservative political party possible then anything can happen, even on the federal level. Maybe someone will read that e-mail and take it seriously because they're bloody idiots if they think that they're invulnerable anywhere in this country anymore.

   

1) Both the US and Canadian governments propped up General Motors and Chrysler in 2008/09. It saved a million jobs, got both those companies back up on the their feet, and prevented the 2008 recession from turning into a full-blown depression. Is there some reason why jobs in Ontario were deserving of protection during their crisis but jobs in Alberta are completely sacrificial during our crisis?

2) For one Mr. Harper shouldn't have been so gung-ho on sanctions against Russia for their activities in Ukraine, especially when it's common historical knowledge that the only real way to really hurt the Russian economy is to clobber their oil exports by cutting the market price. If Harper, Obama, and the Europeans were the ones that encouraged the Persian Gulf states to open the taps up in order to get back at Putin then that makes their interference in this so-called 'free market' and artificial economic event, not a natural one. If they interfered in the market to hurt Russia then they can interfere elsewhere, like these days in Alberta or Bakken, to ensure that the workers and companies in this industry didn't end up paying the price for their foreign policy.

Personally if it were up to me, starting in December 2014 there wouldn't have been a single tanker carrying Persian Gulf oil allowed to enter a port anywhere in North America. Those Muslim assholes might have gone along with the plan to nail Putin but then they opened their taps up wide to clobber the oil sands and Bakken in an attempt to get their market share back. That was the launch of an economic war and there should have been a full-scale retaliation by both Canada and the US over it. Once again, if Mr. Harper was able to put his free market ideology to the side in order to save Ontario auto-sector workers why was it impossible to do eight years later to save Alberta oilpatch jobs? What gives with this anyway? Are we the only genuinely disposable workers in this country but all the others, from the auto industry to mining to fishing to farming to forestry to finance, can all expect the government to come running to their rescue when their industries have a crisis?

I would have expected to be put out of work and to lose everything I had if the government was run by some hate-filled anti-Alberta psycho like Tom Mulcair. I certainly didn't expect it to happen when it's being run by Stephen Harper, not when it's Albertans like me that put him into the job that he has today.

   

You keep saying that, but it's false.

Back in April, Justin fell from 1st to 3rd among leaders that Canadians think "who would make the best prime minister". The CPC has a fantastic ability to define their competition before they can.

http://globalnews.ca/news/1935605/justi ... ster-poll/

   

Are the oil sector/companies going bankrupt? You're trying to compare apples to oranges here.

   

We don't really know that. Won't until October.

   

True, it's the only poll that counts.

When the campaign is fully underway, I expect you to be equally critical of the Liberal Party with their own petty and vindictive ads.

   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMsqEph7a8I

The Liberals never use "attack" ads.

   

If they approach the scale the Conservatives use them, yes. Not a big fan of the whole Fear and Loathing thing.

   

Who said the Liberals never use attack ads? Certainly not me. That is what is known as the old strawman argument. Start wiht a position asserted by no one and disprove that.

I see the social conservatives are busy sending families pictures of aborted fetuses along with warnings that Trudeau supports abortion. Just to be sure everyone knows what they mean, they stick a picture of Trudeau's face next to an aborted fetus.


http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/trudeau-defends-abortion-position-after-graphic-flyers-target-liberal-leader-1.2371906

   

They have and they will again.

The only reason they haven't is due to a lack of funds.



Speaking of strawman, you're stretching. We're talking about party-on-party attack ads and they you vere off with this.

   

And if they do, I'll oppose it. To date, haven't really seen it, based mainly on my exposure to Facebook ads. Not that there's no negative ads, just way less than the Conservatives.

That for me is the draw of the Liberals to this point. Generally speaking, parties that try to scare me into voting for them don't get my vote.




This is more akin to those third-party groups in the US that act as the attack dogs for their parties.

   

You implied it was strictly a Conservative ploy. I merely posted an example of Liberal attack ads.
You're getting your panties in a bunch over nothing.

   

Regardless of what the Liberals do during the campaign, you'll still vote for them. While you may not like the ads, it won't change your voting behaviour.




Not at all.

The CLC has gone after Conservative politicians here in Canada due to their stance and have thrown their support behind many Liberals including my former Liberal MP, Tom Wappel.

   

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