Liberal Landslide in Labrador
Harper misses the bus again.
Any comments from card holding CRAP party members on why again and again Canadians say "NO!" to the far right.
Tman1 @ Tue May 24, 2005 6:02 pm
Tsk Tsk, was Labrador a Liberal stronghold in the first place?
Tman1 Tman1:
Tsk Tsk, was Labrador a Liberal stronghold in the first place?
Well Harper had 350 million opportunities to change some minds.
Sounds like he was a lap ahead and still couldn't win.
Tman1 @ Tue May 24, 2005 6:15 pm
Jeez I tell you, this country was going steadily into another election and it seemed the Libs were literally by the balls, but then..miraculously BING!! crisis averted, Libs take all again. Do people have short 2 week memories in the East or what? or is it just that Labrador is misinformed.
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All these folks online and no one can explain why Harper can't win one lousy seat after all of this?
Tman1 @ Tue May 24, 2005 7:03 pm
Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:
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All these folks online and no one can explain why Harper can't win one lousy seat after all of this?
Libs win all.
Well democracy in action my bitter and twisted chaps from the left. We get the government we deserve eh?
Good stuff Labrador!
I spent 3 fun years up there. Must be the arctic char.....
From what I heard on the news, there was only one occasion when the Liberals were not voted in here, and that's probably because they didn't have a candidate that year.
Could Labrador even support like without federal government money?
Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:
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All these folks online and no one can explain why Harper can't win one lousy seat after all of this?
Okay, I'll throw in my two cents worth...
Stephen Harper has a track record of saying demeaning things about Atlantic Canada:
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On Atlantic Canada:
"There is a dependence in the region that breeds a culture of defeatism," (CBC News, May 30, 2002)
"I think in Atlantic Canada, because of what happened in the decades following Confederation, there is a culture of defeat that we have to overcome. …Atlantic Canada's culture of defeat will be hard to overcome as long as Atlantic Canada is actually physically trailing the rest of the country." (New Brunswick Telegraph Journal, May 29, 2002)
"There's unfortunately a view of too many people in Atlantic Canada that it's only through government favours that there's going to be economic progress, or that's what you look to …That kind of can't-do attitude is a problem in this country but it's obviously more serious in regions that have had have-not status for a long time." (Toronto Sun, May 31, 2002)
“I've taken my position and frankly it's the same position that I took all through the [Alliance] leadership race. I delivered [speeches] everywhere I went, including in the Maritime provinces on several occasions, about the spirit of defeatism in the country and what drives it and how we have to address it.” (National Post, May 31, 2002)
Link To Stephen Harper Quotes.
Maybe it's not such a surprise that Harper's party didn't do so well in Labrador...
Tman1 @ Tue May 24, 2005 7:27 pm
Cripes no wonder.
Maybe if they were in charge of their own fisheries issues they'd still have an industry and wouldn't be totally dependant on handouts from the Federal Government
ON MAY 2, the Committee on the Status of Endangered Wildlife in Canada designated the Newfoundland and Labrador Atlantic cod as endangered. This tragic announcement was an undeniable testament to the utter and stunning failure of federal fisheries management over the past 25 years. There can be no excuse, no scapegoat. Quota-based management of single species of groundfish has delivered an ecological, economic and cultural disaster unprecedented in modern times.
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/ ... i_n9175173
ridenrain ridenrain:
Maybe if they were in charge of their own fisheries issues they'd still have an industry and wouldn't be totally dependant on handouts from the Federal Government
You're right. The Tories really blew that didn't they?
As someone FROM the Maritimes maybe I can pipe in a bit. Newfoundland, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick all have one resources that they have a very high success rate in exporting. Their educated children. There are a lot of good schools out east. Lots of young people with talent, skill and creativity. And as soon as they graduate, they go looking for a job and don't find any. So they run off to centeral Canada to avoid the unemployment line. I know a number of guys that were tied down there because of family that didn't want to move. Guys with masters degrees cutting meat at the grocery market. How is an economy supposed to grow when the cream of the crop have already left for greener pastures?
The cycle just keeps repeating. There's no "culture of defeatism". What does that mean actually? That we Maritimers say "Oh well, there's no jobs out there... might as well wait for my welfare cheque"? That's a VERY, VERY, VERY small percentage - no more in rural Nova Scotia than there is in rural Ontario. But that that is the standard stereotype.
As for most of the federal money that goes out east is for things such as DND (such as the base in the above riding) and our Navy. Or offices for processing tax forms. It's not money for nothing.
Now some companies have caught on... AOL has opened an office in Halifax as it knows it can get some very intelligent programmers at a relatively cheap cost. But those examples are far and few between. Most companies wait for the talent to move to them OR go all the way and ship their business off to India. Something has to start somewhere to break the cycle. Calling us names and suggesting that we are lazy isn't helping the situation.
DevilsAdvocate DevilsAdvocate:
Something has to start somewhere to break the cycle. Calling us names and suggesting that we are lazy isn't helping the situation.
Very well said.
From what I read: the closure of fishing was the likened to closing all the factories in Ontario. I can't believe that people in the center of the country should be making decisions on fisheries on either end of the country because it's not working out very well here in BC.
Why didn't the "flag flap" have a larger effect? Have you started to get back more than 30 cents on the dollar from the offshore oil? I understand you also were looking for more return on the nickle mining.
I hope you get the government you wanted.
The Newfies have been getting shafted by the Feds for years. NFLD had a budget surplus when it joined confederation. Unfortunately the Canadian Wolf hasn’t repaid the compliment.
NFLD has lost the right to manage it’s resources under the various Govt. depts.
The cod fishery moratorium was a DFO manufactured problem. Whole communities in NFLD were eradicated by the Feds fishery policy. The Newfies deserve our respect not cheap digs at the unique employment opportunities (or lack of) the Rock offers,
Well voted , Todd Russell is a Labradorian, who better to represent Labrador?