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For their own sakes, and for the sakes of the country, which would not be well served by there being no strong opposition party, let us hope the NDP is up to it. Because the Conservatives have proved they aren't, and the Liberals need the chastisement of defeat to learn that they are there to serve those who elect them, not to rule them or profit by picking the public purse.

   

Its just what I've said before. They knew which issues were going to lose them the election and chose the wrong side. Fiscally I think their policies have the same chance at improving Canada as the Liberals.

   

If this is true then God help our country, becuase the NDP is a joke and the Liberals are crooks. It's a sad day when people will knowingly elect crooks to government.

   

Since the Conservatives & Reform party can never be deemed appropriate opponents for the Liberals, why don't the Liberals spawn their own opposition?

That'll make Canadian voters feel like their getting their moneys worth, and still keep the old boys network in charge. We can have huge, orchestrated debates with fiery filibusters and the results will still be the same pre-determined results.

Maybe that's what Belinda was trying to do?

   

Belinda is done.

   

And the conservatives are white knights in shining armour eh? If you put it that way that its a sad thing when people have to "elect crooks" in order to keep the religious right from forcing their beliefs on others.

   

Will you please show me where it states anything remotely close to the religious BS you keep spewing.

http://www.conservative.ca/#

and if you can't

STFU

Actually just STFU anyways, your mantra is unfounded and totally mythical.

   

I don’t believe the Conservatives are dead, but they are definitely on political life support. Their dogmatic ideology (with strong promotion of religious tenets) is too extreme for the average individual that inhabits the Canadian political environment. They need to quiet the religious elements in their party if they want to break free from their self-imposed ideological bonds and make a legitimate run for the government of Canada. Find the Red Tories again or they’ll continue to in their current role: the official opposition.

   

I quite agree Mustang. I think Harper is not the man to do the job. Being a PM is more than just having a good platform. He needs to be a salesman in order to convince the cabbages in Ontario to vote for him and I don't think he has the communication skills to pull it off. Pete MacKay on the other hand would be a better choice. Chicks dig him and he's a charismatic speaker.

This thread smells suspiciously of a bit of Right Wing baiting though......wait for all the little pinky's to go rabid at any posts a degree away from their dogma......

   

Question: If the Liberal party declared they were not feilding any canidates in Quebec because of ad-scam in the next election, would the NDP or the Conservatives make the real gains?

   

I think that's where he and basically all the other parties dropped the ball. By concentrating on things he can't have, like Ontairo and Quebec, he's alienated and taken for granted his base in the West. After all, the Reform Party was formed as a counter to the Bloc. He sided with the Bloc, and that's the worst thing he could have done in the eyes of former hard-core Reformers such as myself.

The only thing that comes close to the old Red Tories of Diefenbaker and Joe Clark is ethier the Greens, or the Canadian Action Party, and no one wants to vote for unknown 'fringe' groups.

So, the LIEberals will win again.

But I agree with you that this looks like bait.

   

Highly unlikely. I'd guess that if the Bloc didn't bring to the front their desire for a seperate Quebec until after the election angain, it would be a Bloc sweep of Quebec. I don't think Quebec is ready for the Conservatives yet, and they don't trust the NDP after they sided with the Liberals.

But, I could be wrong.

   

Canadian politics is now a frickin' joke. Conservatives are crazy religious businessmen, the Liberals are a bunch of lying babbling crooks( much like the Bush administration. ), and the NDP right now, has gone off the deep end( let's hope they can come back from the deep end).

   

What are the chances that the Conservatives will see social conservatism as the dud it is?

   

Its not its basically the Liberals without Gay marriage and Gun Control and all the other bullsh*t they do

   

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