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ziggy @ Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:38 pm

When the CT's first reared their heads. :lol:

pipeline 2001 conspiracy

Looks like these theory's get rehashed every couple of years.

   



Calgary123 @ Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:42 pm

ziggy ziggy:
Calgary123 Calgary123:
ziggy ziggy:


Different pipeline Ziggy.
the map on your first link and the map off my link show the same area.


You are correct in with regards to the route through Afghanistan... although this deal comprises an extended path from Turkey, underwater to Isreal. The writer is pointing out the fact that the Lebanon coastline which spearates Israel and Turkey is the region in which it would be best served for the oil conglomerates to be under military control from Israel.

   



ziggy @ Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:50 pm

Calgary123 Calgary123:
ziggy ziggy:
Calgary123 Calgary123:
ziggy ziggy:


Different pipeline Ziggy.
the map on your first link and the map off my link show the same area.


You are correct in with regards to the route through Afghanistan... although this deal comprises an extended path from Turkey, underwater to Isreal. The writer is pointing out the fact that the Lebanon coastline which spearates Israel and Turkey is the region in which it would be best served for the oil conglomerates to be under military control from Israel.

uhhhh,ok,let me go get my tinfoil beanie. :roll: I better go phone the Bilderburg boys,let them know your on to them. 8)

   



ridenrain @ Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:51 pm

ziggy ziggy:
When the CT's first reared their heads. :lol:

pipeline 2001 conspiracy

Looks like these theory's get rehashed every couple of years.


Torpedo, hit and sunk.
Calgary, do bring this up in 5 more years or so.

   



Calgary123 @ Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:52 pm

ziggy ziggy:
When the CT's first reared their heads. :lol:

pipeline 2001 conspiracy

Looks like these theory's get rehashed every couple of years.


Call me a CT all you want... but at the end of the day, I find it easier to believe that the US is more interested in controlling this region for it's oil rich reserves, than to believe that they are being the "heroes" they are stamping out "terrorism".

Their involvement in these middle east conflicts have only increased anti-western opinions on the world stage (and acts of terror), and they had to know this going in. I find it hard to believe that the US is spending billions of dollars every year, and sacrificing thousands of their troops in a bloody war... over weeding out a few "terrorists" who could present a threat to America. It just doesn't make sense. To make such a committment as they have in this continuous "war on terror" without having alterior motives defies logic and common sense... to me.

   



Calgary123 @ Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:58 pm

ridenrain ridenrain:
ziggy ziggy:
When the CT's first reared their heads. :lol:

pipeline 2001 conspiracy

Looks like these theory's get rehashed every couple of years.


Torpedo, hit and sunk.
Calgary, do bring this up in 5 more years or so.


Ridenrain,

What makes this a conspiracy? I'm curious as to what you actually mean when you imply that this whole thing is just a creation of somebody's overactive imagination. I'm really interested in what makes you feel that this whole perspective can be bottled up into a CT container.

I'm all ears.

   



ziggy @ Thu Jul 27, 2006 3:04 pm

Calgary123 Calgary123:
ridenrain ridenrain:
ziggy ziggy:
When the CT's first reared their heads. :lol:

pipeline 2001 conspiracy

Looks like these theory's get rehashed every couple of years.


Torpedo, hit and sunk.
Calgary, do bring this up in 5 more years or so.


Ridenrain,

What makes this a conspiracy? I'm curious as to what you actually mean when you imply that this whole thing is just a creation of somebody's overactive imagination. I'm really interested in what makes you feel that this whole perspective can be bottled up into a CT container.

I'm all ears.
Wait a couple of years and he will bring it up again.
Now I'm no expert but working in the patch I do a lot of pipelining and tend to stay up on whats going on as far as pipelines are concerned around the world.Like most of these CT's,they tend to fade away for a year or two and then resurface when convenient to push an agenda,in Calgary123's case it's anti American.

   



Bodah @ Thu Jul 27, 2006 3:23 pm

ziggy ziggy:
Calgary123 Calgary123:
ridenrain ridenrain:
More of the war on reality?
I guess I'll have to read some of this, at least for a good laugh.
With so much of a fight over oil, it makes you wonder why they haven't just taken over Canada.
:roll:


:lol: The "war on Reality"

If we were a Muslim country, and all wore turbins... I would be worried :wink:

Better to be with them... then against them I suppose. You won't catch me goose-stepping in support of Heil Bush though.


Your starting to sound like a terrorist apologist. :roll:


More like a cheerleader

   



hwacker @ Thu Jul 27, 2006 3:26 pm

fatbasturd fatbasturd:
Calgary123 Calgary123:
hwacker hwacker:
I don't have time to read it now but i'll give you shit later.

:lol:

Cheers!
I wonder what he is up to....it's still to early to burn a cross :wink:


I'm in the middle of a startup in Seattle, when I get some time I’ll load up both barrels.

   



fatbasturd @ Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:32 pm

hwacker hwacker:
fatbasturd fatbasturd:
Calgary123 Calgary123:
hwacker hwacker:
I don't have time to read it now but i'll give you shit later.

:lol:

Cheers!
I wonder what he is up to....it's still to early to burn a cross :wink:


I'm in the middle of a startup in Seattle, when I get some time I’ll load up both barrels.
You feeling ok?your not usally so touchie [cry]

   



Johnny_Utah @ Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:46 pm

Calgary123 Calgary123:
The War on Lebanon and the Battle for Oil

by Michel Chossudovsky

July 26, 2006
GlobalResearch.ca


Is there a relationship between the bombing of Lebanon and the inauguration of the World's largest strategic pipeline, which will channel more a million barrels of oil a day to Western markets?

http://www.globalresearch.ca/images/middleastmap.jpg

Virtually unnoticed, the inauguration of the Ceyhan-Tblisi-Baku (BTC) oil pipeline, which links the Caspian sea to the Eastern Mediterranean, took place on the 13th of July, at the very outset of the Israeli sponsored bombings of Lebanon.

One day before the Israeli air strikes, the main partners and shareholders of the BTC pipeline project, including several heads of State and oil company executives were in attendance at the port of Ceyhan. They were then rushed off for an inauguration reception in Istanbul, hosted by Turkey's President Ahmet Necdet Sezer in the plush surroundings of the Çýraðan Palace.

Also in attendance was British Petroleum's (BP) CEO, Lord Browne together with senior government officials from Britain, the US and Israel. BP leads the BTC pipeline consortium. Other major Western shareholders include Chevron, Conoco-Phillips, France's Total and Italy's ENI. (see Annex)

Israel's Minister of Energy and Infrastructure Binyamin Ben-Eliezer was present at the venue together with a delegation of top Israeli oil officials.

The BTC pipeline totally bypasses the territory of the Russian Federation. It transits through the former Soviet republics of Azerbaijan and Georgia, both of which have become US "protectorates", firmly integrated into a military alliance with the US and NATO. Moreover, both Azerbaijan and Georgia have longstanding military cooperation agreements with Israel. In 2005, Georgian companies received some $24 million in military contracts funded out of U.S. military assistance to Israel under the so-called "Foreign Military Financing (FMF) program".

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... es/GA.html

Israel has a stake in the Azeri oil fields, from which it imports some twenty percent of its oil. The opening of the pipeline will substantially enhance Israeli oil imports from the Caspian sea basin.

But there is another dimension which directly relates to the war on Lebanon. Whereas Russia has been weakened, Israel is slated to play a major strategic role in "protecting" the Eastern Mediterranean transport and pipeline corridors out of Ceyhan.

Militarization of the Eastern Mediterranean

The bombing of Lebanon is part of a carefully planned and coordinated military road map. The extension of the war into Syria and Iran has already been contemplated by US and Israeli military planners. This broader military agenda is intimately related to strategic oil and oil pipelines. It is supported by the Western oil giants which control the pipeline corridors. In the context of the war on Lebanon, it seeks Israeli territorial control over the East Mediterranean coastline.

In this context, the BTC pipeline dominated by British Petroleum, has dramatically changed the geopolitics of the Eastern Mediterranean, which is now linked , through an energy corridor, to the Caspian sea basin:

"[The BTC pipeline] considerably changes the status of the region's countries and cements a new pro-West alliance. Having taken the pipeline to the Mediterranean, Washington has practically set up a new bloc with Azerbaijan, Georgia, Turkey and Israel, " (Komerzant, Moscow, 14 July 2006)

Israel is now part of the Anglo-American military axis, which serves the interests of the Western oil giants in the Middle East and Central Asia.

While the official reports state that the BTC pipeline will "channel oil to Western markets", what is rarely acknowledged is that part of the oil from the Caspian sea would be directly channeled towards Israel. In this regard, an underwater Israeli-Turkish pipeline project has been envisaged which would link Ceyhan to the Israeli port of Ashkelon and from there through Israel's main pipeline system, to the Red Sea.

The objective of Israel is not only to acquire Caspian sea oil for its own consumption needs but also to play a key role in re-exporting Caspian sea oil back to the Asian markets through the Red Sea port of Eilat. The strategic implications of this re-routing of Caspian sea oil are farreaching.

In April 2006, Israel and Turkey announced plans for four underwater pipelines, which would bypass Syrian and Lebanese territory.

"Turkey and Israel are negotiating the construction of a multi-million-dollar energy and water project that will transport water, electricity, natural gas and oil by pipelines to Israel, with the oil to be sent onward from Israel to the Far East,

The new Turkish-Israeli proposal under discussion would see the transfer of water, electricity, natural gas and oil to Israel via four underwater pipelines.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite? ... 2FShowFull


“Baku oil can be transported to Ashkelon via this new pipeline and to India and the Far East.[via the Red sea]"

"Ceyhan and the Mediterranean port of Ashkelon are situated only 400 km apart. Oil can be transported to the city in tankers or via specially constructed under-water pipeline. From Ashkelon the oil can be pumped through already existing pipeline to the port of Eilat at the Red Sea; and from there it can be transported to India and other Asian countries in tankers. (REGNUM )

Water for Israel

Also involved in this project is a pipeline to bring water to Israel, pumping water from upstream resources of the Tigris and Euphrates river system in Anatolia. This has been a long-run strategic objective of Israel to the detriment of Syria and Iraq. Israel's agenda with regard to water is supported by the military cooperation agreement between Tel Aviv and Ankara.

The Re-routing of Central Asian Oil

Diverting Central Asian oil and gas to the Eastern Mediterranean (under Israeli military protection), for re-export to Asia, serves to undermine the inter-Asian energy market, which is based on the development of direct pipeline corridors linking Central Asia and Russia to South Asia, China and the Far East.

Ultimately, this design is intended to weaken Russia's role in Central Asia and cut off China from Central Asian oil resources. It is also intended to isolate Iran.

Meanwhile, Israel has emerged as a new powerful player in the global energy market.

War and Oil Pipelines

Prior to the bombing of Lebanon, Israel and Turkey had announced the underwater pipeline routes, which bypassed Syria and Lebanon. These underwater pipeline routes did not overtly encroach on the territorial sovereignty of Lebanon and Syria.

On the other hand, the development of alternative land based corridors (for oil and water) through Lebanon and Syria would require Israeli-Turkish territorial control over the Eastern Mediterranean coastline through Lebanon and Syria.

The implementation of this project requires the militarisation of the East Mediterranean coastline, sea ways and land routes, extending from the port of Ceyhan across Syria and Lebanon to the Lebanese-Israeli border.

Is this not one of the hidden objectives of the war on Lebanon? Open up a space which enables Israel to control a vast territory extending from the Lebanese border through Syria to Turkey.

"The Long War"

Israeli Prime minister Ehud Olmert has stated that the Israeli offensive against Lebanon would "last a very long time". Meanwhile, the US has speeded up weapons shipments to Israel.

There are strategic objectives underlying the "Long War" which are tied to oil and oil pipelines.

The air campaign against Lebanon is inextricably related to US-Israeli strategic objectives in the broader Middle East including Syria and Iran. In recent developments, Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice stated that the main purpose of her mission to the Middle East was not to push for a ceasefire in Lebanon, but rather to isolate Syria and Iran. (Daily Telegraph, 22 July 2006)

At this particular juncture, the replenishing of Israeli stockpiles of US produced WMDs points to an escalation of the war both within and beyond the borders of Lebanon.

For more details: http://www.bakuceyhan.org.uk/more_info/bp_pipeline.htm

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Get a Fucking Clue Loser! Hezbollah thanks Tards like you for supporting them..

   



VitaminC @ Thu Jul 27, 2006 6:43 pm

ridenrain ridenrain:
More of the war on reality?
I guess I'll have to read some of this, at least for a good laugh.
With so much of a fight over oil, it makes you wonder why they haven't just taken over Canada.
:roll:


Haven't they?

   



Calgary123 @ Thu Jul 27, 2006 9:12 pm

ziggy ziggy:
Calgary123 Calgary123:
ridenrain ridenrain:
ziggy ziggy:
When the CT's first reared their heads. :lol:

pipeline 2001 conspiracy

Looks like these theory's get rehashed every couple of years.


Torpedo, hit and sunk.
Calgary, do bring this up in 5 more years or so.


Ridenrain,

What makes this a conspiracy? I'm curious as to what you actually mean when you imply that this whole thing is just a creation of somebody's overactive imagination. I'm really interested in what makes you feel that this whole perspective can be bottled up into a CT container.

I'm all ears.
Wait a couple of years and he will bring it up again.
Now I'm no expert but working in the patch I do a lot of pipelining and tend to stay up on whats going on as far as pipelines are concerned around the world.Like most of these CT's,they tend to fade away for a year or two and then resurface when convenient to push an agenda,in Calgary123's case it's anti American.


Ziggy,

All due respect, but I happen to work in the patch myself... and I'm still not clear on what you are trying to say? If you wish to answer for Ridenrain, feel free to answer my original question... I'm interested. Where is the conspiracy here? As I stated, I'm not suggesting that the author has nailed it relative to this being the sole and only reason behind the conflict... but he builds a strong case with some interesting facts and analysis.

And for the record, I'm not anti-American... I do happen to think that the US government is corrupt at certain levels, and is pushing an agenda under the disguise of a "war on terror". There's a difference.

   



Calgary123 @ Thu Jul 27, 2006 9:38 pm

Bodah Bodah:
ziggy ziggy:
Calgary123 Calgary123:
ridenrain ridenrain:
More of the war on reality?
I guess I'll have to read some of this, at least for a good laugh.
With so much of a fight over oil, it makes you wonder why they haven't just taken over Canada.
:roll:


:lol: The "war on Reality"

If we were a Muslim country, and all wore turbins... I would be worried :wink:

Better to be with them... then against them I suppose. You won't catch me goose-stepping in support of Heil Bush though.


Your starting to sound like a terrorist apologist. :roll:


More like a cheerleader


Bodah,

You got it all wrong. I am far from a "cheerleader" for real terrorism. I happen to think that real terrorism has no place in this world, and I have no sympathy for those that wish to inflict pain and sufferring onto innocents in the form of making a political statement.

I do think that terrorism comes in many shapes and forms though, and much like I despise the acts of those that would commit such crimes, I can't stand the lies and deception the US government has crafted in the form of terrorising the world with it's illegal wars in the middle east. The neocon agenda that smacks of imperialism while fabricating a "war on terror" to push this and garner support from the public through a censored and filtered media is no different than the acts of Hitler. This regime mastered the form of propoganda and led a country into war, while its citizens saluted the bravery and rights of the German republic.

First it was Afghanistan - The US had to sieze control of the country because of the Taliban... a nation of "terrorists". Was it not the CIA that formed and funded the Taliban in the 1990's? I guess now they are "terrorists".

Then Iraq - A well crafted propoganda ploy that lasted for months... in carefully crafted speechs from the Republican brass that "connected" Al Queda and Saddam Hussein... even though they have no allegiance what-so-ever. And to stoke the fire even hotter... why not claim that the country possess's WMD's! Just to scare everyone just enough to get a committment to march into Iraq. Whatever happened to those WMD's?? Oh ya... they didn't have any. :roll: And there are high level individuals who have gone on the record since then stating that the government lied intentionally to start another illegal war, in a country that posed no threat.

Next is Iran... The media propoganda machine has been working overtime for months, and while its a FACT... that Iran can pose no threat to the US with their Nuclear, it's only a matter of time before the government can create a strong enough case for bombing the crap out of another country... that happens to be sitting on a lake of oil, back to the stone ages, while the Military Industrial complex makes billions, and the government partners in the Oil business reap the benefits.

Ya I know... It's all a BIG conspiracy! :roll:

   



Calgary123 @ Thu Jul 27, 2006 9:47 pm

Johnny_Utah Johnny_Utah:
Calgary123 Calgary123:
The War on Lebanon and the Battle for Oil

by Michel Chossudovsky

July 26, 2006
GlobalResearch.ca


Is there a relationship between the bombing of Lebanon and the inauguration of the World's largest strategic pipeline, which will channel more a million barrels of oil a day to Western markets?

http://www.globalresearch.ca/images/middleastmap.jpg

Virtually unnoticed, the inauguration of the Ceyhan-Tblisi-Baku (BTC) oil pipeline, which links the Caspian sea to the Eastern Mediterranean, took place on the 13th of July, at the very outset of the Israeli sponsored bombings of Lebanon.

One day before the Israeli air strikes, the main partners and shareholders of the BTC pipeline project, including several heads of State and oil company executives were in attendance at the port of Ceyhan. They were then rushed off for an inauguration reception in Istanbul, hosted by Turkey's President Ahmet Necdet Sezer in the plush surroundings of the Çýraðan Palace.

Also in attendance was British Petroleum's (BP) CEO, Lord Browne together with senior government officials from Britain, the US and Israel. BP leads the BTC pipeline consortium. Other major Western shareholders include Chevron, Conoco-Phillips, France's Total and Italy's ENI. (see Annex)

Israel's Minister of Energy and Infrastructure Binyamin Ben-Eliezer was present at the venue together with a delegation of top Israeli oil officials.

The BTC pipeline totally bypasses the territory of the Russian Federation. It transits through the former Soviet republics of Azerbaijan and Georgia, both of which have become US "protectorates", firmly integrated into a military alliance with the US and NATO. Moreover, both Azerbaijan and Georgia have longstanding military cooperation agreements with Israel. In 2005, Georgian companies received some $24 million in military contracts funded out of U.S. military assistance to Israel under the so-called "Foreign Military Financing (FMF) program".

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... es/GA.html

Israel has a stake in the Azeri oil fields, from which it imports some twenty percent of its oil. The opening of the pipeline will substantially enhance Israeli oil imports from the Caspian sea basin.

But there is another dimension which directly relates to the war on Lebanon. Whereas Russia has been weakened, Israel is slated to play a major strategic role in "protecting" the Eastern Mediterranean transport and pipeline corridors out of Ceyhan.

Militarization of the Eastern Mediterranean

The bombing of Lebanon is part of a carefully planned and coordinated military road map. The extension of the war into Syria and Iran has already been contemplated by US and Israeli military planners. This broader military agenda is intimately related to strategic oil and oil pipelines. It is supported by the Western oil giants which control the pipeline corridors. In the context of the war on Lebanon, it seeks Israeli territorial control over the East Mediterranean coastline.

In this context, the BTC pipeline dominated by British Petroleum, has dramatically changed the geopolitics of the Eastern Mediterranean, which is now linked , through an energy corridor, to the Caspian sea basin:

"[The BTC pipeline] considerably changes the status of the region's countries and cements a new pro-West alliance. Having taken the pipeline to the Mediterranean, Washington has practically set up a new bloc with Azerbaijan, Georgia, Turkey and Israel, " (Komerzant, Moscow, 14 July 2006)

Israel is now part of the Anglo-American military axis, which serves the interests of the Western oil giants in the Middle East and Central Asia.

While the official reports state that the BTC pipeline will "channel oil to Western markets", what is rarely acknowledged is that part of the oil from the Caspian sea would be directly channeled towards Israel. In this regard, an underwater Israeli-Turkish pipeline project has been envisaged which would link Ceyhan to the Israeli port of Ashkelon and from there through Israel's main pipeline system, to the Red Sea.

The objective of Israel is not only to acquire Caspian sea oil for its own consumption needs but also to play a key role in re-exporting Caspian sea oil back to the Asian markets through the Red Sea port of Eilat. The strategic implications of this re-routing of Caspian sea oil are farreaching.

In April 2006, Israel and Turkey announced plans for four underwater pipelines, which would bypass Syrian and Lebanese territory.

"Turkey and Israel are negotiating the construction of a multi-million-dollar energy and water project that will transport water, electricity, natural gas and oil by pipelines to Israel, with the oil to be sent onward from Israel to the Far East,

The new Turkish-Israeli proposal under discussion would see the transfer of water, electricity, natural gas and oil to Israel via four underwater pipelines.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite? ... 2FShowFull


“Baku oil can be transported to Ashkelon via this new pipeline and to India and the Far East.[via the Red sea]"

"Ceyhan and the Mediterranean port of Ashkelon are situated only 400 km apart. Oil can be transported to the city in tankers or via specially constructed under-water pipeline. From Ashkelon the oil can be pumped through already existing pipeline to the port of Eilat at the Red Sea; and from there it can be transported to India and other Asian countries in tankers. (REGNUM )

Water for Israel

Also involved in this project is a pipeline to bring water to Israel, pumping water from upstream resources of the Tigris and Euphrates river system in Anatolia. This has been a long-run strategic objective of Israel to the detriment of Syria and Iraq. Israel's agenda with regard to water is supported by the military cooperation agreement between Tel Aviv and Ankara.

The Re-routing of Central Asian Oil

Diverting Central Asian oil and gas to the Eastern Mediterranean (under Israeli military protection), for re-export to Asia, serves to undermine the inter-Asian energy market, which is based on the development of direct pipeline corridors linking Central Asia and Russia to South Asia, China and the Far East.

Ultimately, this design is intended to weaken Russia's role in Central Asia and cut off China from Central Asian oil resources. It is also intended to isolate Iran.

Meanwhile, Israel has emerged as a new powerful player in the global energy market.

War and Oil Pipelines

Prior to the bombing of Lebanon, Israel and Turkey had announced the underwater pipeline routes, which bypassed Syria and Lebanon. These underwater pipeline routes did not overtly encroach on the territorial sovereignty of Lebanon and Syria.

On the other hand, the development of alternative land based corridors (for oil and water) through Lebanon and Syria would require Israeli-Turkish territorial control over the Eastern Mediterranean coastline through Lebanon and Syria.

The implementation of this project requires the militarisation of the East Mediterranean coastline, sea ways and land routes, extending from the port of Ceyhan across Syria and Lebanon to the Lebanese-Israeli border.

Is this not one of the hidden objectives of the war on Lebanon? Open up a space which enables Israel to control a vast territory extending from the Lebanese border through Syria to Turkey.

"The Long War"

Israeli Prime minister Ehud Olmert has stated that the Israeli offensive against Lebanon would "last a very long time". Meanwhile, the US has speeded up weapons shipments to Israel.

There are strategic objectives underlying the "Long War" which are tied to oil and oil pipelines.

The air campaign against Lebanon is inextricably related to US-Israeli strategic objectives in the broader Middle East including Syria and Iran. In recent developments, Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice stated that the main purpose of her mission to the Middle East was not to push for a ceasefire in Lebanon, but rather to isolate Syria and Iran. (Daily Telegraph, 22 July 2006)

At this particular juncture, the replenishing of Israeli stockpiles of US produced WMDs points to an escalation of the war both within and beyond the borders of Lebanon.

For more details: http://www.bakuceyhan.org.uk/more_info/bp_pipeline.htm

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PDT_Armataz_01_33 PDT_Armataz_01_33
Get a Fucking Clue Loser! Hezbollah thanks Tards like you for supporting them..


Is that the best you've got? :roll:

What makes you think I support Hezbollah? Because I post an article that takes a difference perspective to this war? I guess throwing a juvenile insult is the only way you can comment. You should take a few lessons from Mustang1... at least he can form an intelligent analysis to counter my posts.

Who's the loser? :wink:

   



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