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What should the Natives say to this i wonder...............

   

How would we suffer by asking that they be Canadians first and formost and Muslims second as our previous ancestors swore the oath to this country and it's beliefs. Who do new Muslim immigrants swear to Uphold and Protect? Canadians have every right to ask new comers to become part of Canada and not build an enclave in Canada but become a part of Canada.

Islam isn't a race it's a religion so stop calling SJ a racists, he's every right to his opinion.

   

"Canadians first and foremost"? "swore an oath"? This is just meaningless rhetoric.

It's stupid to think we can control cultural identity through laws - The French in Quebec try to do that, and look how popular that's been with the ROC.

   

Orange Irish aren't really Oarange. They are actully Anglicans which was historically a part of the Catholic church. Orange reffers to Calvinist such as Dutch king William the Orange.

   

I don't like the Burkas, but I have to respect their right to wear them. If they wish to, then let them. If they don't want to, then they should not be forced.

   

I dunno the burkas aren't the much differnet then those eastern european scarves old ladies wear.

   

When you lay down they will step on you. But when you stand up for yourself they will hate you but they will respect you!

What a coincidence we are having a huge debate in Québec right now about (les Accomodements raisonnables) The thing that we do has a society to accomodate people of different culture. Ex: A CLSC that give prenatal class to women only to accomodate people of Hindu and muslim origin. Wich leave couple to go somewhere else. Or The wearing of the Kirpan in public school.... etc.



Let's say that people around here are pretty fed up about it. And there is a clear intention from the political leader ADQ and PQ to revise the Québec Charter.

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Thank goodness we have a constitution to entrench the rights of all races, genders, religions. Why does ignorance and fear so quickly replace intelligent thought? Why are we so quick to abandon our hard fought freedoms and values in the face of a little adversity ? Have we not learned from our shameful past like the Japanese internment camps?

   

Constitutions can be amended...And Interment camps worked quite well in Canada safe in WW2. yes of course the Liberals cry about them now, but in WW2 they praised their effectiveness in keeping Canadians safe. If I had my way we would have all immigrants stay in one until we could prove without a doubt that they had no links to terror groups or criminal gangs of any kind. That would include everyone no matter where they came from. I just don't trust immigrants like I use to. It's time to say "if you want in, you must play by our rules. Of course I'd improve them and make sure they are comfortable....But I'd still ban burqas!

   

You sure about that? You mean to say the muslims who wanted to kill a few thousand people in Toronto are 100% red-blooded Canadians?

Sorry, but if someone is not at least as loyal to Canada as a Quebec separatist then I don't see how you can call them "Canadian".

   

I live in Montreal since 4 years and I have never seen a woman wearing a burqa. I've seen a lot wearing headscarf though.

I don't care about those wearing scarf in public but I would ban them from schools and other public institutions. The state is secular.

   

Banning burqas, even internment camps would be far from my first choices. The image that keeps coming to mind is using Canadian flag fabric for the scarves. Who's going to ban that. It would be a show of patriotism and loyalty to ones religion. The Muslims need to find a way to reform themselves. Part of that is coming up with a workable image, an idea, or ideal of what it is to be an integrated Western Muslim. They need a good PR firm. Anyone know a good ad agency?

Another thought is anti-Catholisism in America (Quebec?). It wasn't that long ago that there was a general mistrust of hierarchical religious organizations with foreign leaders. I know the two cases aren't exact. However, Muslims should know that the distrust is not peculiar to them. My actual worst fear is that the Muslims and the Christians will band together and push through a global prioritization of freedom of religion over other freedoms.

   

Ya lily, those irish are good at bombing, but thankfully they kept their bombing to Ireland and London. I think it took balls to call a full 30 minutes in advance and warn the people to get out....I guess those cell phones the terrorists carried aboard just don't work they drove themselves into the twin towers...

   

From who? the interman camps were a directed against second and third generation Canadians who could have served the war effert but were instead locked away at taxpayers expence.



No, it prevents religious policy in government, Canadians should be free to wear religous dress such as headscarves and kirpans in public service.

   

This is one of the worst ideas ever.

I understand entirely that by banning the Burqa we believe that we are defending the freedom of women. What we are really doing is erroding it. Freedom of choice, for women, has to mean the freedom to choose the Burqa.

Hate to have to be the one to say it.

   

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