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What Is The Point Of The NDP?

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Tricks @ Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:23 am

Avro Avro:
Free thinking is bad? Huh, glad you're not running things.

Nobody will force you to take your child to a daycare, if you wish to take them to inferior home care go right ahead but they won't get ahead.

Show me NDP policy that supports your claim on crime.

Show me where the NDP supports giving guns to criminals.....do they hand them out at party head quarters?


No other party has taken a hard line with natives and what would you do if you were dictator......assimilate them?
He was kidding....

   



Triple_R @ Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:27 am

I view the NDP as the principled left, whereas the Liberals have few issues that they are TRULY passionate about - by and large, they'll simply go where Ontario and Quebec is polled as wanting them to go (in fairness, the Conservatives are becoming a bit like that themselves).

In reality, the Conservatives and Liberals aren't as different from one another as their hardcore supporters would lead you to believe - and we see this with several prominent defections in recent years by Stronach, Emerson, and Khan.

If you want a major change in how the government is ran... you vote NDP. Now, whether those changes are positive or negative are up for debate, but I do think that the NDP, in power, would change the face of Canadian government and policy moreso than any other political party would.

The problem for the NDP is that they have not found the right voice with which to attack the Liberals (and it's the Liberals that the NDP needs to attack - they will gain precious few converts from the Bloc or the Tories), while not being perceived as 'cozying up' to the Conservatives.

The NDP has improved in this vein, but not enough.

   



SJ-24 @ Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:46 pm

$1:
In reality, the Conservatives and Liberals aren't as different from one another as their hardcore supporters would lead you to believe - and we see this with several prominent defections in recent years by Stronach, Emerson, and Khan.

:lol: I can't stop laughing.....get a grip on reality.

$1:
If you want a major change in how the government is ran... you vote NDP. Now, whether those changes are positive or negative are up for debate, but I do think that the NDP, in power, would change the face of Canadian government and policy moreso than any other political party would.


:lol: :lol: :lol: Does the region of Former Soviet Union jar anything? The NDP are communists and we all know how well their policies in BC and Ontario worked out in the past don't we. I still can't believe there are that many retarded lazy people out there that are allowed to vote for the NDP. Jack off Layton is not a leader as much as he would become a DICTATOR. Look it up in the dictionary...It describes him perfectly. :wink:

   



2Cdo @ Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:17 pm

Avro Avro:
Nobody will force you to take your child to a daycare, if you wish to take them to inferior home care go right ahead but they won't get ahead.



Yes because unionized workers who barely know your kids name would be so much better than a family member or neighbour to watch your kids. :roll:

Less government not more. The NDP may have been a social conscience at one time but today they reek of extremism and are merely a mouthpiece for every fringe special interest group out there. In short, they are no longer relevant.

   



Triple_R @ Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:26 pm

SJ-24 SJ-24:
:lol: I can't stop laughing.....get a grip on reality.


I think that I have such a grip on reality.

Ultimately, a Stephen Harper government isn't that drastically different from a Paul Martin government. How much we pay in taxes is similiar in both cases, the basic government agencies and health care provisions that we have are very similiar in both cases, and the overtures that we make to Quebec are similiar in both cases.

Harper believes in a foreign policy that is significantly different than Martin's, or the Liberals in general, but on domestic issues, I see no major differences.

Harper pays lip service to small 'c' conservatives, but he doesn't actually bring about any significant legislative changes in this area - SSM is still legal, and abortion (which, astoundingly, was an issue that influenced many Ontario voters in the last election) is not even on the radar.

The only major difference between the Conservatives and the Liberals is who they pay lip service to, and their approach to certain secondary government agencies like the slashed Status of Women agency.

Harper never had a hidden agenda - he's simply a slightly more hawkish/fiscally conservative Liberal that's well-liked in Alberta and doesn't mind saying "God bless Canada".

On actual substantive policy, he's not that different than Paul Martin is.

   



hurley_108 @ Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:31 pm

Triple_R Triple_R:
Harper never had a hidden agenda - he's simply a slightly more hawkish/fiscally conservative Liberal that's well-liked in Alberta and doesn't mind saying "God bless Canada".


His true colours will come out if and when he wins a majority government.

I'm not saying he has a hidden agenda, just that he's savvy enough to know that any hidden agenda he does have should be kept under wraps until there's no threat of being toppled.

   



TheGup @ Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:12 pm

Avro, I'm just a political junkie. I'm very conservative.

Anyways, enough about Harper. Here's some questions that I was thinking.

1) Would the NDP voters go with the NDP if they merged with the Liberals?

2) Do you think it would be possible for the NDP to influence the Liberals from within the party?

3) Do you think that the right-wing Liberals would drift towards the CPC?

   



grainfedprairieboy @ Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:44 pm

Grown Up No Longer Votes NDP

SASKATOON (SBP) -- Long time New Democratic Party supporter Arlan Brullochuk has decided that he no longer has the same views as the socialist party. The decision came about slowly as he matured from a young, know-it-all university student into a responsible adult.

"It's really funny," said Brullochuk, "It's just like, one day, I thought, I can't keep depending on government, I can't just sit around, do nothing, and expect everything to get done, and I can't just sit here and smoke pot for the rest of my life. It was time to become responsible, use my education to get a job, buy a home, and become a contributing member of society who pays taxes and pulls his own weight.

"And, strangely enough, it was around that time that I decided that I should stop voting NDP."

Brullochuk's evolution from an NDP voter to a responsible adult was not an easy decision and was frought with opposition from both himself and his unemployed friends.

"Yeah, when my university friends were sober and not stoned out of their minds, it was really tough being called a sellout and that I was a whore for THE MAN." explained Brullochuk, "These people were like family to me. I mean, we shared everything; our hatred for Americans, our love of the NDP, and particularly, our unearned government paychecks"

Over time, Brullochuk saw that his socialistic lifestyle wasn't destined to last for the long term.

"It all started in the last federal election about 18 months ago," said Brullochuk, "I looked at the ballot and was prepared to do my usual mindless vote for the local NDP candidate and, then I thought, 'Hey, I have a non unionized job now' and changed my conformist voting habits to something that better represented normal person's viewpoints."

At the time, Brullochuk had been employed as a shipper/reciever for a local concern.

"Once I got that first earned paycheck from a reputable employer who didn't sell drugs on the side, it was like an epiphany," continued Brullochuk, "I suddenly felt like an adult and, let me tell you, it was a freeing experience. I was like, wow, I'm not a lazy and self righteous commie anymore!

"And, therefore, I will never vote NDP again."

Now that Brullochuk has been a few years past his graduation from university, he has naturally outgrown his socialistic viewpoints. He plans on continuing to be a grown up in the future and being a contributing member of society

Source

   



hurley_108 @ Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:31 pm

grainfedprairieboy grainfedprairieboy:
Grown Up No Longer Votes NDP *snip*[/url]


You tit. You complete and utter tool. That's a satire site and you friggin know it, trying to pass it off as honest and hoping nobody clicks the link.

   



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