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No, communism is ruled by this moto: «From each according to his ability, to each according to his need».

   

You mix up socialism and parasitism.

   

Since I created this threat, I guess I have to be the "off-topic police". The thread was intended to debate which tax to eliminate once the debt is gone.

I created another thread to debate Liberalism vs Libertarian Socialsim. This discussion of how far social programs should go is sufficiently close to that topic. I invite you to go there: Liberalism vs Libertarian Socialsim

   

Having a government does not mean it is automatically socialism or socialist. There are such things as other governments not just some by a collective controlled by the majority of workers. You are twisting what socialism is and trying to use it over a broad undefined spectrum for any type of organisation or any group of people that got together for mutual benefit. Socialism is government ownership and control of businesses. Capitalism is private ownership and control of business. So if you advocate that the government or some collective should control business and production then you are a socialist. If you believe individuals should look after themselves and should be free to buy, sell, and trade by their own accord you are a capitalist.

   

The tax system should be fixed so that workers feel that their wage is compensating their effort and so that entrepreneurs feel that their anxiety about risk is recognised fully by the state and so that those who restrain their consumption (save) feel that their patience is fully recognised. All these elements are subjective feelings; the big challenge for a just society is to translate theses subjective feelings into something more objective, so that a social contract can be agreed upon.

   

No, it's back to the Far west!

   

The only just society there can be is one of limited government that just maintains order (Police), national defence, courts that hold up contracts and common law, and also a court to maintain the constitution and keeping it from the hands of democracy (Rule by the majority aka a mob) and whatever else. This would also have minimal taxation to pay for these things. The freedom of individuals and the protection of their rights is really the only just society.

   

The only just society there can be is the one that should be. Libertarianism has been out-dated by contractualism. Just check the literature in the last twenty years that compares Robert Nozick and John Rawls.

   

Taxes are a robbery, a fraud, a wrong presentation... Already that on the foundation we cannot buy our whole production.

Why to tax houses for the health cares, schools, food... if houses construct nothing of that?

The same thing for the debt service, which was 10 times paid, among which 90 % in composite interests. Debt is illogical, because it is for things that we made with our means ourselves (importation-exportation), ans our ressources.

Democracy wants to tell strong people, and not strong government, what make taxes with state planning. Intervention procreates the taxation, and the taxation procreates intervention.

   

REGULATORY CAPTURE

Gamekeeper turns poacher or, at least, helps poacher. The theory of regulatory capture was set out by Richard Posner, an economist and lawyer at the University of Chicago, who argued that “REGULATION is not about the public interest at all, but is a process, by which interest groups seek to promote their private interest ... Over time, regulatory agencies come to be dominated by the industries regulated.” Most economists are less extreme, arguing that regulation often does good but is always at RISK of being captured by the regulated firms.

http://www.economist.com/research/Econo ... orycapture

   

I would eliminate which ever tax would torment those cheap bastard Liberals the most.

   

Wrong answer.

   

then don't ask

   

Try again.

   

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