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The Unholy Kingdom is an interesting humour site ran by a Canadian. I mean, nobody un-Canadian would talk about Rush and Gowan that much.

Problem, he's a communist. So we pretty much need to kill him.

   

Just because he is a communist doesn't mean that hes a bad person... You must be facist if you have that type of hate for a communist...

   

   

.... what I meant was, just because some... well most communists have been bad, fucked up people doesn't mean they're all bad... Anyway, communism is alot better then facism

   

You don't think there's maybe on outside chance the guy was kidding around? Not even a little bitty chance of it? And if he hates communists, please explain how that makes him a fasCist...could be he's a fundamentalist Muslim or a Pat Robertson follower too maybe.

Ever lived under either system? I dunno if either is better than the other, to tell the truth. Can you name me a good communist? Just one? Hmmm...I can't either. But, I really do think the guy was kidding around. See if maybe that doesn't come to you too.

   

...Communism is a better form of Government then Facism because of the big difference between them... Communism, more or less focuses on the peoples rights, while Facism, focuses more on law and order at the expense of freedom... That is, if their wasn't outside interferences... Such as Stalin and his executing everyone... I mean, can't really respect peoples rights very well when you're killin' them all

   

No good can ultimately come of either system but Communism has killed far more people and distorted more societies than Facism so I'd say it's easily the worst of the two, not to mention that it's far from dead yet.

   

...looking at its past to judge it... I'm look at what it stands for...

Communism, Public Health Care, Public Education, Public Corporations...

Facism, Private Health Care, Private Education, Private Corporations...

If you look at all Politics now a days, they are basically a blend of the two... Canada, Public Health Care, Public Education... Privately owned businessess

For example, the NDP is more Communist, while Alliance is more Facist... But neither are strong right wings/left wings... Anyway Rosco, to judge it on how many people it kills is stupid... Because its people that killed those people... Twisted leaders ruined both forms of Government for what they were meant to be.. If had a leader that had no basic human emotions and no basic human instincts, (Most basic instinct being Greed) then he/she would probably make either government turn out well... At least on the side of whether or not they slaughter their citizens...

   

Laconfir, I assume you are pretty young. Doesn't matter...read Mein Kampf (National Socialism and Fascism were very similar) and either Das Kapital or the Manifesto (preferably both). There's a saying...power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Communism in its pure form has never been tried really. It fails to recognize human nature and so it can never succeed. Centralized distribution and slamming down ingenuity were trademarks of Soviet-style communism. It is a doctrine which has been tossed upon the scrap heap of history...where it belongs. Both systems (fascism and communism) have exceptionally bloody histories. A lot of really stupid people toss that handle (fascist) around and don't really understand at all what they are saying. Don't be one of those..

   

Quite frankly both of you don't know the meaning of the words Fascist or communist. I have very close family (mom and dad not to mention numerous aunts and uncles) who have lived in both a fascist country and a communist country. Until you have been there you have no clue.

   

Is that right Chrissy? I am Hungarian. My family has lived under the Nazi rule there in the years leading up to and through World War II and under the Soviets in the years after the war until 1990. I am VERY familiar with both systems and it is why I am trying to get Laconfir to quit hurling that label around.

Where are your people from where they've had to live under those systems? I wasn't around to see the Nazis in Budapest, but I sure saw the Russians and the way they stifled debate. I know of several families who had people hustled off in the middle of the night...and in one case the guy didn't come home for 7 years. When I was 2, the people tried to throw the Russians out on their asses, but as luck would have it, it was the same time that the Suez Canal Crisis flared up, so the Hungarians got no help at all and were crushed. Same thing happened in Czechoslovakia in 1968.

You need to know who you are talking to though before you make statements like you just made. You don't know what you are talking about...

   

My family is German. Dad was a teenager under Nazi rule and mom was just a girl. Most of the family lived in once was for a time East Germany. They have only been in Canada since 1980. They rest of the family is still in Germany. If you want to here stories my family is full of tales of neighbors disappearing, fear that you'd be next. It didn't help that my Great Grandfather was a spook in WW1. I am sorry I assumed that you were unaware about life under those regimes Wingnut.

   

They say that East Germany had it far worse than any of the Eastern Bloc countries, because the Soviets really wanted to punish them. I guess you DO know what that stuff is all about. Wir sollten Geschichten einmal teilen.

   

Wingnut, next time, read my fucken post, thats what I said!

And to Chrissy, What I was trying to get across is that, communism, in my opinion, is better then facism, if it was tried the way it mean't to be, as Wingnut and I put it... I guess Wingnut's post was clearer...

   

I read your "fucken post" and it didn't make a bit of sense. Sorry. You are saying that getting shot in the back is better than getting shot in the head. They both will fucking kill you, so what's the difference?

   

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