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Title: Accused bus killer worked at Winnipeg church
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: Hyack
Date: 2008-08-03 17:55:39
Canadian

   

I am extremely offended at the intent here no matter how subtle to again paint Christians as side show freaks that go beserk and kill when they want to. Had this sorry excuse for a human been a Muslim they would have gone out of their way to avoid mentioning his religeous affiliation. This is the reason I boycott CTV, CBC, CNN et al. Time and time again they discriminate against Christians and mollycoddle the muzzies.

   

You're right on, Can Am....

   

Oh, more on this story. I thought, by the title, that someone had killed a bus...

   

CanAm- (my husband)The article is pointing out that the man worked at the church, not that he was a Christian. The bible shows examples of people serving food in the church as being some of the strongest Christians of their time. Do you not think that the world has a right to comment on the fact that the church is completely ignoring the standards set forth in the bible for employing people in their church? If the fellow who had done this had been a Pastor, would you have felt it was ok to mention his occupation?

   

They mearly reported where he worked and his employers opinion of the man. Nowhere was religion trashed or blamed or faulted in any manner. They did the same thing for Tim also. They repoirted where he worked and his employers opinion of him.

I think that if the man was a muslim then loads of people on this forum would be attacking that fact and bringing up muslim beheading and a whole slew of anti-muslim theories.

At this point nobody has posted anything regarding religion except you.

   

What would you determine a Canadian to be? White, blonde & blue eyed?

Don't forget, it was not only the blonde blue eyes who built this country into what we know as Canada today.

   

NO such thing, Canadians are immigrants. The only real "Canadians" are the natives of the lands before the European arrived. Technically when you say Canada is for Canadians, I hope you're a first nations subject, otherwise, I'd gracefully tell you sir, to shut the fuck up!

   

While I see your point I disagree. The mere fact that the church was at the headline shows intent to tie him to a church. These people know that 90% of people don't read much past the headline and this was a subtle attempt to tie him to a church. I stand by that and had he been muslim and killed in the name of Allah then by all means let the people here have at him.
I stated that the media is who avoids putting any relationship to Muslim or Islam with any one that perpetrates a crime in the name of Islam. This guy didn't kill in the name of Christianity but the HEADLINE said ACUSSED KILLER WORLS AT WINNEPEG CHURCH.
If they didn't want to be offensive they could have reworked the headline and included in the story that he once worked at the Church.
They don't make headlines when Muslims do that they avoid telling it in the story all together if they can.
If you don't know of or see a bias against Christians in the media then you are either liking it and oblivious to it or you just choose to ignore it and not call it as it is.
When Nicholas Berg was beheaded they didn't make mention of the fact that these insurgents were Muslims. Outrage demanded that they do so and they finally capitulated and mentioned it. If the video hadn't of come out on the website and the killers been screaming ALLAH! then they still would have avoided it.

   

You are trying to find fault where there is none.

Nowhere in that article did they do anything they don't do for any of the shootings and killings before. Whether its Kimveer Gill where they went out of their way to detail his vampirefreaks connection (which several people on this very forum laid the blame directly on) or any of mass shootings.

They always mention where the perpetrator worked and interview his boss and collegues. If he worked in a hat factory you wouldn't be crying about it now would you?

They always report details about the perpetrators working life because quite often thats where alot of the facts come from. Always.

When Nick Berg was beheaded the headlines screamed the muslim connections so you are either completely ignorant of the facts ot completely dishonest.

If this man were a muslim or simply worked in a mosgue then you would have been freaking out about "muzzies" just like some people have attacked all "immigrants" as if good ole white bread home grown Canadaians never acted like this. I guess Clifford Olsen became a muslim immigrant the moment he started killing boys.

You are being very idiotic witt your moronic belief that the church was somehow involved simply because you feel the media should have had 6 or 7 disclaimer sentences absolving the church and your religion from all perceived guilt.

You are delibertatly forcing a connection where there is none. They interviewed Tims boss and talked about his work even more often. Is that saying that carny folk or all just victims in waiting?

They did absolutely nothing wrong in the way they reported it. Nothing. Not a thing. It is simply impossible for any reasonable person to even begin to believe that the reporters were somehow blaming the church he worked at and/or religion in general.

Like I said before, if you hadn't have open up your mouth and posted this nonsense then I doubt few people if any would be thinking the church was to blame and I bet the few who did only did so because they themselves blame all blacks, or all muslims, or all immigrants for any transgression of any of there memebers.

   

Geezus Derby, it monday on a long weekend. You need to take a chill pill. All this hate is not doing your health much good.

   

First of all, let me start by saying that I am a Christian. As a Christian, I do NOT expect the media to hide nor diminish the fact that an employee of a Christian church did such a terrible deed. Why shouldn't it be in the headline? Why shouldn't it be exposed that this person was an employee of ANY church of ANY religion in any position? Sure, it was a mistake, or error, on the part of that church to hire someone who was so mentally ill, criminal, or wrong (whatever you want to call it.) HOWEVER, the bible of the Christian church clearly states that we should "know those who labor among us." I'm sure that the preacher of that church didn't know that man that well or he wouldn't have employed him in his church. So, while I believe in grace and forgiveness, I also believe in accountability. The Christian church is not benefitted in any way by hiding these types of headlines from the public. It should be open, and in my opinion, it would be a great example to the rest of the world, if the Preacher pointed out that he missed it in employing this man and that the man in no way represents the church nors it's beliefs. Accountability is not a bad thing. I also think that it is a good thing that they mentioned that the church is supporting the wife of the man and praying for the family of the victim. Both of these, in my opinion, are good traits of the church, and they were not left out of the article.

   

He was responding to the religious comment, not initiating it.

As to the other thing, who would be so foul as to suggest that muslims are infamous for beheading people?

   

Yeah those guys sure had Canada all built up and huge industrial revolution going on. They’d still be making fire by rubbing sticks together if it wasn’t for the Europeans.

Canada is what it is because of the Europeans. The natives didn’t know what to do with the place. Oh and they got their collective asses kicked numerous times.

   

You gotta be kidding.

Would it have been better to report him as an immagrint from China, which borders Pakistan, which currently harbours Taliban extremists?

   

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