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Title: Arizona Mom Arrested After Telling Cops She Was Leaving Kids to Be a Stripper
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: QBall
Date: 2010-08-09 14:51:50

   

A very homely stripper I must say.(If this pisses anyone off too bad)

   

"was abandoning her two boys because she said she was sick of them, and wanted to finally be able to pursue her dream of becoming a stripper."

That one kind of took me a second to grasp.

   

Damn. I bet she loses Custody!

   

I wonder if she'll sue her sons for support when she gets old, like the woman in BC.

   

So here's one. In this case should the state police be allowed to check if she's in the country legally?

   

I think ANYONE should be checked if they are in the country legally whenever "they" get the chance.
Just like anyone should be checked for outstanding fines whenever they get a chance.

With "anyone", I mean "anyone". Caucasian, African American, Hispanic, Asian, veil or no veil, turban or not, born here or not, I do not care. Anyone, no exception.

   

But how to establish that? There is no national ID card. There is no requirement to carry ID. So the cops can ask the person, but if they don't have proof of legal residency on them (which most people won't), are the cops going to haul them off to jail? Will they do it to prominent white citizens who get stopped for speeding?

   

There's the first change you have to make.
In The Netherlands, you have to carry ID with you from the day you turn 14.
An ID card or a (Dutch) passport will do. Drivers license is no ID, and a creditcard doesn't even come close.
Don't carry it, and you get asked for it, you have a week to go to the police station to show it, otherwise you will be fined.

BTW, why "most people won't"?
I always carry ID with me.

   

Do you have ID with you that proves you're in the country legally? I have my BC Medicare card, maybe that would do I don't know. When I lived in the US, I certainly didn't carry the various visas I was there under with me.

What you're proposing re: ID, the very same Teabaggers that are all for this law would rise up in arms about.

I'm all for the US excluding illegal immigrants. I don't think this law will do it - what will local cops do with people they find are illegal. Local cops can't deport, the feds probably don't want to hear from them.

The way to go after illegal immigration is to come down hard on employers who hire them. This bill does have some provisions in that respect, which the judge upheld.

   

I have my PR card with me, my BC drivers license, my sin card, my healthcard and my passport.

You don't get a healthcard if you are not in the country legally.

Why can one pick up a drunk driver and put them in jail, but not an illegal alien? It's part of their job. Local cops don't need to deport, they need to fill out paperwork, and fax that to the department that makes those decisions.

   

I would have no problem with the concept if they had a surefire way to to determine legality before hauling off to jail. I would hate to be put in jail if I was a legal resident but didn't have the right ID. I just hope they apply the law fairly, so they're inconveniencing white people, not just Hispanics.

   

Exactly.
Which is why a week to show it would keep you out of jail.
If you are legal, it says so in your passport. If you are legal, you get a PR card, or a work visa (in Canada, that is). In the US, as far as I know, you get a green card.
In any case, your passport should have a stamp or sticker, and as an immigrant, you have a passport. Circle complete

   

Do you really think letting an illegal go, s/he will show up in a week at the cops? No way, Jose.

   

You really have all that with you at all times? If so, that's not smart. Your drivers licence and health card are all you should "need" to carry on a regular basis, and maybe not even your health card. The rest should be kept in a safe place at home, particularly your passport (because it such a big deal to get a replacement) and SIN number (because of identity fraud). There's no reason you'll need those at a moment's notice in Canada, so they're safer at home.

   

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