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Title: Avro Arrow redesign pitched as alternative to F-35 fighter jets
Category: Military
Posted By: Canadaka
Date: 2012-09-09 21:39:00
Canadian

   

video on global http://www.globalnews.ca/feds+reject+bi ... story.html

novel idea but im fairly certain it wouldnt work well for the needs the air force has now. it was a long range intercept for another era. the F35 is crap though, there are better planes sutied for Canada's needs.

Maybe the Liberals should pick this up as an issue, they are always saying they are about 'Big, Bold ideas'.

   

Sounds pretty far-fetched, I have to say. How about a Canadian moon base and aircraft carrier while we're at it?

   

One of my friends suggested upgrading the CF-18 design and buying another batch instead. On the note of the Arrow, it could likely be done but the problem would be cost of development and then production, we would need a few places with guaranteed orders to actually even consider it.

   

That would still require a bigger order than just Canada's.

   

Hence why we would need guaranteed orders, likely pitched to someone like Russia that has a lot of area to cover but only so much cash to do it with.

   

Russia would never buy foreign A/C. They make and use their own. Turkey maybe...

   

Even then, we would be lucky, the Arrow is designed for a long gone era, it would take a massive amount of cash to bring that thing to any chance of being able to work out.

   

A long gone era when Canadians thought they were good enough to build aircraft, rockets, atomic reactors, hydrofoils, etc.
Now stop daydreaming and ship us that raw bitumen, coal, raw logs and water, boy.

   

A most intriguing idea.

   

We were good enough to do a lot of it and still are, the problem is that a lot of the drive to actually do it is gone.

   

The end-to-end cost just for the sake of having a uniquely Canadian-made product would be 100x more than buying one off-the-shelf. And considering that modern aircraft manufacturing involves dozens of multinational corporations from around the world anyway makes the Canadian-ness of the finished product questionable anyway.

   

There nothing stopping Canada from making its own plane - except cost. If Canadian taxpayers are willing to sink $20-30 billion to do so, then let's do it. The problem isn't know-how - it's money. People are upset that the F-35 will cost us as much as $25 billion - which is at least what a brand-new designed from the ground up plane like this would cost us.

It'd be funny if it wasn't true...

   

While a rehash of a half-century old design is economically DOA the idea that Canada could produce a competitive fighter is not entirely off base. So long as it is accepted that there will be high development costs going into the effort to build not just a fighter, but the aerospace infrastructure necessary to build it, then in the long run this would be awesome for Canada. Likewise, I firmly support Canada developing a ship building capability again so Canada is not dependent upon other nations for critical defense needs.

   

There's nothing wrong with using your natural resources to compliment the other industries in your country. You'd be out of business if it weren't for natural resources.

   

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