Calgary reservist Maj. Darryl Watts found not guilty of mans
Gunnair @ Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:41 pm
Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:
Well if we are going back to that point, I still stand by my original statement that Reg Officers have much better than Res Officer.
I will refine my opinion and say all the Res Infantry Officers I have worked with have had poor training.
I will refine my opinion and say all the Res Infantry Officers I have worked with have had poor training.
Fair enough. My experience of naval officers is that reg force are no better and may even be worse with respect to training and ethics.
Guy_Fawkes @ Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:50 pm
As a side note, from what I can remember from claymores the rear safety distance (in war time) is 15 m in the prone. Which means you are in a proper shell scrape with PPE. Which is where I think things went wrong.
Gunnair @ Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:53 pm
Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:
As a side note, from what I can remember from claymores the rear safety distance (in war time) is 15 m in the prone. Which means you are in a proper shell scrape with PPE. Which is where I think things went wrong.
English, pongo. Shall we discuss the laying of a boat athwartships?
Public_Domain @ Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:00 pm
Gunnair @ Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:03 pm
Public_Domain Public_Domain:
Gunnair Gunnair:
Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:
It's shit like this that gives reservists a bad name.
Any more than
gives reg force members a bad name?I have that exact hat, though it's a bit damaged now.
Williams'?
Xort @ Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:06 pm
I was trained on the claymore in my trades training and I was Armour, how does an Infantry officer not get trained on this? Or is it, 'reserve officer what training'?
Anyway, "I have no clue what I'm doing, WO take over" is or should be a valid defense against the charges. Maybe not the sign of a great leader, but one that is at least willing to admit he doesn't know what he is doing and needs help. That's why at the low level you get a n00b officer and a senior NCO running stuff.
From what I've read Watts wasn't the RSO, and was not part of the range staff, even if he was the platoon's officer. Just because he could have mucked about with the range and told people to move here and do this or that doesn't magicaly make him the one of the hook if someone gets hurt. Or maybe more correctly, shouldn't make him the one on the hook at least in my mind.
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Have any details of the accident been published? Did they follow proper methods and practices for using the mine? Not to push the blame down to the people that got hurt but did they do what they were suppost to do?
Is their a date for the sentencing?
Public_Domain @ Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:21 pm
Freakinoldguy @ Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:24 pm
Anybody else notice the guy was a fekin Captain when he killed and injured those people yet when he was tried he was a Major. 
I was always under the impression your promotion was held up when you were being charged and until a finding had been pronounced.
Gunnair @ Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:27 pm
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
Anybody else notice the guy was a fekin Captain when he killed and injured those people yet when he was tried he was a Major.
I was always under the impression your promotion was held up when you were being charged and until a finding had been pronounced.
I was always under the impression your promotion was held up when you were being charged and until a finding had been pronounced.
Depends I guess on how long it took to lay the charge.
Freakinoldguy @ Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:32 pm
Gunnair Gunnair:
Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:
Well if we are going back to that point, I still stand by my original statement that Reg Officers have much better than Res Officer.
I will refine my opinion and say all the Res Infantry Officers I have worked with have had poor training.
I will refine my opinion and say all the Res Infantry Officers I have worked with have had poor training.
Fair enough. My experience of naval officers is that reg force are no better and may even be worse with respect to training and ethics.
Strange my experiences were the opposite but when you talk about ethics it doesn't matter which force you talk about.
Ethics can be taught, and even instilled but, they will always remain a personal choice which means there is absolutely no difference between the Reg's or the Reserves when it comes to ethics.
Training. It's what you do with the training you recieve and if a Reserve uses his training to the best of his ability while a Reg with alot more training doesn't it's pretty apparent who'd be the safest person to be around, wouldn't it.
Freakinoldguy @ Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:34 pm
Gunnair Gunnair:
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
Anybody else notice the guy was a fekin Captain when he killed and injured those people yet when he was tried he was a Major.
I was always under the impression your promotion was held up when you were being charged and until a finding had been pronounced.
I was always under the impression your promotion was held up when you were being charged and until a finding had been pronounced.
Depends I guess on how long it took to lay the charge.
Maybe, I just found it a little odd since I never saw that happen when I ran anyone.
Maybe it's an officer thing.
Lemmy @ Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:35 pm
Xort Xort:
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You're the only poster that uses that symbol. I think you should shove that symbol in your ass.
Just sayin'.
Gunnair @ Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:36 pm
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
Gunnair Gunnair:
Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:
Well if we are going back to that point, I still stand by my original statement that Reg Officers have much better than Res Officer.
I will refine my opinion and say all the Res Infantry Officers I have worked with have had poor training.
I will refine my opinion and say all the Res Infantry Officers I have worked with have had poor training.
Fair enough. My experience of naval officers is that reg force are no better and may even be worse with respect to training and ethics.
Strange my experiences were the opposite but when you talk about ethics it doesn't matter which force you talk about.
Ethics can be taught, and even instilled but, they will always remain a personal choice which means there is absolutely no difference between the Reg's or the Reserves when it comes to ethics.
Training. It's what you do with the training you recieve and if a Reserve uses his training to the best of his ability while a Reg with alot more training doesn't it's pretty apparent who'd be the safest person to be around, wouldn't it.
Ahhh...there's wisdom. Take sliders on Friday.
Gunnair @ Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:39 pm
Lemmy Lemmy:
Xort Xort:
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You're the only poster that uses that symbol. I think you should shove that symbol in your ass.
Just sayin'.
How I get the 'cranky' label is beyond me.
Lemmy @ Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:44 pm
Gunnair Gunnair:
How I get the 'cranky' label is beyond me.
You get it 'cause you're crusty. Crusty as Melba Toast, which is your new nickname: Melba Toast.
