Canada, Britain eye joint embassies
Newsbot @ Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:15 pm
Title: Canada, Britain eye joint embassies
Category: Misc CDN
Posted By: saturn_656
Date: 2012-09-23 16:00:53
Canadian
saturn_656 @ Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:15 pm
UK, Canada, Australia, and NZ are four countries that should be working together much more than they do.
Never mind the EU.
ShepherdsDog @ Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:16 pm
We're cousins?? what kind of messed up geneology is that? Cousin to the nation that birthed you....sounds sort of Ozarkian.
saturn_656 @ Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:25 pm
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
We're cousins?? what kind of messed up geneology is that? Cousin to the nation that birthed you....sounds sort of Ozarkian.
AUS, CAN, and NZ are "sisters" and UK is mother.
That comparison has paternalistic overtones which may not be popular with certain... Demographics.
RUEZ @ Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:32 pm
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
We're cousins?? what kind of messed up geneology is that? Cousin to the nation that birthed you....sounds sort of Ozarkian.
Is it wrong if we make out with the UK?
saturn_656 @ Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:38 pm
UK media is taking a different slant on it.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ds-newsxml
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William Hague will tomorrow launch a worldwide network of British Commonwealth embassies to rival the emergence of the EU as a foreign superpower.
The Foreign Secretary is in Canada where he will sign an agreement to open joint UK-Canadian diplomatic missions abroad.
He also hopes Australia and New Zealand will join the initiative whereby the four countries will pool their resources to extend their combined influence on world affairs.
The Foreign Secretary is in Canada where he will sign an agreement to open joint UK-Canadian diplomatic missions abroad.
He also hopes Australia and New Zealand will join the initiative whereby the four countries will pool their resources to extend their combined influence on world affairs.
ShepherdsDog @ Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:53 pm
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One British diplomat put it more bluntly: ‘For all the grandiose talk of European unity, we have so much more in common with many Commonwealth countries than the EU – and not just the English language.
‘There is a saying in the British diplomatic corps that “the French want to do us over, the Germans want to lord it over us and the Italians are all over the place”.
‘We would never dream of trusting them with intelligence secrets, but we share everything with the Canadians, Aussies and Kiwis.
‘Brussels can extend its diplomatic reach – well, so can we.
‘There is a saying in the British diplomatic corps that “the French want to do us over, the Germans want to lord it over us and the Italians are all over the place”.
‘We would never dream of trusting them with intelligence secrets, but we share everything with the Canadians, Aussies and Kiwis.
‘Brussels can extend its diplomatic reach – well, so can we.
The problem is, unlike the other Europeans, Britain had a world spanning empire and out of that Empire were carved new nations where the majority of the population were British, not just subjugated aboriginals who had to learn the white masters tongue. Out of a 'democratic' British Empire there arose several little democratic.. new Britains. Europeans were the rabble that battled on the mainland.
Britain has only been a member of the European Club for a few decades. It still remembers it used to head something bigger and better. To its west lays an entire continent dominated by the descendants of Britons, just as the island continent of Australia is dominated by former Britons. We should go so far as to say Britain has far more in common with the US, other than language, than it does with the Europeans.
Tricks @ Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:05 pm
FUCK YEAH! That's old school co-operation right there. Whoever proposed this best be recognized.
Gunnair @ Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:10 pm
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
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One British diplomat put it more bluntly: ‘For all the grandiose talk of European unity, we have so much more in common with many Commonwealth countries than the EU – and not just the English language.
‘There is a saying in the British diplomatic corps that “the French want to do us over, the Germans want to lord it over us and the Italians are all over the place”.
‘We would never dream of trusting them with intelligence secrets, but we share everything with the Canadians, Aussies and Kiwis.
‘Brussels can extend its diplomatic reach – well, so can we.
‘There is a saying in the British diplomatic corps that “the French want to do us over, the Germans want to lord it over us and the Italians are all over the place”.
‘We would never dream of trusting them with intelligence secrets, but we share everything with the Canadians, Aussies and Kiwis.
‘Brussels can extend its diplomatic reach – well, so can we.
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'bout time.
Thanos @ Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:15 pm
Unfortunately it'd be something that the Liberals and NDP would immediately jettison ASAP if they got into power just to appease Quebec (as usual). I don't see how successful it could be in fighting back against the 40+ years of anti-British sentiment that's been lodged in the Canadian political mindset since the Trudeau era.
After the way that the British under Tony Blair lap-dogged it for the Americans in Iraq, I'd be extremely hesitant of being a part of any "Anglosphere" that's automatcally taken for an auxiliary cohort for US foreign policy anyway. As despicable a politician as Jean Chretien was, keeping Canada officially out of the Iraq bumblefuck was exactly the right thing to do. In the absence of any convincing threat to Canada this is exactly the position I'd like us to maintain in perpetuity. I don't want the reflexive anti-American hostility of the EU, courtesy mostly of France's attitude, but I don't want us being dragged into future ill-gotten/fabricated US misadventures against the Muslims either.
ShepherdsDog @ Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:16 pm
We're all getting giddy with the idea of a resurgent Pax Britannia.
desertdude @ Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:29 pm
Ah, you people forgot about the French you have on board, don't seem them agreeing with this at all, yeah if maybe France proposed joint French and Quebec missions.
Boy that would be one embassy I would not be going to, so many french all gathered in one place, yikes !
Gunnair @ Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:33 pm
desertdude desertdude:
Ah, you people forgot about the French you have on board, don't seem them agreeing with this at all, yeah if maybe France proposed joint French and Quebec missions.
Boy that would be one embassy I would not be going to, so many french all gathered in one place, yikes !
Boy that would be one embassy I would not be going to, so many french all gathered in one place, yikes !
They can always opt out....
saturn_656 @ Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:42 pm
desertdude desertdude:
Ah, you people forgot about the French you have on board, don't seem them agreeing with this at all, yeah if maybe France proposed joint French and Quebec missions.
Boy that would be one embassy I would not be going to, so many french all gathered in one place, yikes !
Boy that would be one embassy I would not be going to, so many french all gathered in one place, yikes !
If the separatists want their french socialist state along the shores of the St. Lawrence they can have it. Unfortunately for us after ten years we'd have to take them back in and clean up the mess they made.
RUEZ @ Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:45 pm
desertdude desertdude:
Ah, you people forgot about the French you have on board, don't seem them agreeing with this at all, yeah if maybe France proposed joint French and Quebec missions.
Boy that would be one embassy I would not be going to, so many french all gathered in one place, yikes !
Boy that would be one embassy I would not be going to, so many french all gathered in one place, yikes !
Why would a province have it's own embassy? If Canada had joint embassies with France I would have no problem, but a single province having an embassy is a problem.