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Canada will be major world power by 2050: scientist

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Canadian_Mind @ Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:02 pm

Double immigration rates, establish a 100 year plan for resource extraction and exploitation in the north, and encourage economic development and presence in the north (make all the towns bigger with self-sustaining industries). While it's hard to do that with the provinces, the government has more control over the territories. So if they say sell the oil at a rate where it will last for 100 years, the territories are obliged to sell only so much per year until more is discovered.

Then we got a chance. otherwise no hope in hell.

   



BartSimpson @ Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:30 pm

andyt andyt:
Laurier "the 20th century belongs to Canada." So only 150 years late or just another prediction pulled out of someone's ass? Who wants to be a world power? We'd doubtless become as big assholes as the US is.


Some of your fellow Canadians on this site have long and well established the fact that they have larger anal passages than the average American. :idea:

   



andyt @ Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:33 pm

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
andyt andyt:
Laurier "the 20th century belongs to Canada." So only 150 years late or just another prediction pulled out of someone's ass? Who wants to be a world power? We'd doubtless become as big assholes as the US is.


Some of your fellow Canadians on this site have long and well established the fact that they have larger anal passages than the average American. :idea:


So then it must be the larger number of Americans that can make the US act like such an asshole at times. And that was my point.

   



BartSimpson @ Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:02 pm

Andy, I'd rather expect that a powerful Canada would be hated for not allowing Russia or China or anyone else to push her around and I'd also expect that the Maple Leaf would be the most welcome sight on the scene of disasters world-wide. :rock:

   



EyeBrock @ Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:08 pm

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:
Double immigration rates, establish a 100 year plan for resource extraction and exploitation in the north, and encourage economic development and presence in the north (make all the towns bigger with self-sustaining industries). While it's hard to do that with the provinces, the government has more control over the territories. So if they say sell the oil at a rate where it will last for 100 years, the territories are obliged to sell only so much per year until more is discovered.

Then we got a chance. otherwise no hope in hell.



Double immigration rates? We already have the highest per capita immigration rates in the G20.

Just importing people isn't going to do it.

Canada is doing pretty good already. I'd say it's definitely a world power. G8, G20, NATO etc. We are a leading member of the world community already.

Power, well how do you define real power? By the size of our population?

Bollocks.

There are plenty of Third world countries with way higher population levels that are dirt poor.

   



rickc @ Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:29 pm

EyeBrock EyeBrock:
Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:
Double immigration rates, establish a 100 year plan for resource extraction and exploitation in the north, and encourage economic development and presence in the north (make all the towns bigger with self-sustaining industries). While it's hard to do that with the provinces, the government has more control over the territories. So if they say sell the oil at a rate where it will last for 100 years, the territories are obliged to sell only so much per year until more is discovered.

Then we got a chance. otherwise no hope in hell.



Double immigration rates? We already have the highest per capita immigration rates in the G20.

Just importing people isn't going to do it.

Canada is doing pretty good already. I'd say it's definitely a world power. G8, G20, NATO etc. We are a leading member of the world community already.

Power, well how do you define real power? By the size of our population?

Bollocks.

There are plenty of Third world countries with way higher population levels that are dirt poor.

EyeBrock hit the nail on the head.Canada ALREADY is a major world power. India has one of worlds largest populations. How many people are looking to immigrate to India? The article does raise an interesting point. If global warming is real,it can only help countries like Canada. The temperate zone would shift due north,opening up a lot of Canadian land to agriculture. The Northwest passage could be open yearround, generating income for Canada.As bad for the world in general as global warming could be, some northern countries would greatly benefit.

   



desertdude @ Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:29 pm

Good question, what excatly constitues a super power. Money, Army, weapons, population ?

I think a country which tries its best to look after its citizens and residents, offering freedoms and rights, a decent to good standard of living , doesn't meddle in other peoples bussiness, is fairly well off and economically strong and the majority of the world doesn't think its an asshole.

And I think Canada fullfills most if not all of these conditions, I'd say its already a superpower in my view 8)

   



EyeBrock @ Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:39 pm

desertdude desertdude:
Good question, what excatly constitues a super power. Money, Army, weapons, population ?

I think a country which tries its best to look after its citizens and residents, offering freedoms and rights, a decent to good standard of living , doesn't meddle in other peoples bussiness, is fairly well off and economically strong and the majority of the world doesn't think its an asshole.

And I think Canada fullfills most if not all of these conditions, I'd say its already a superpower in my view 8)



I agree with the dude from Dubai!

   



BartSimpson @ Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:46 pm

desertdude desertdude:
Good question, what excatly constitues a super power. Money, Army, weapons, population ?

I think a country which tries its best to look after its citizens and residents, offering freedoms and rights, a decent to good standard of living , doesn't meddle in other peoples bussiness, is fairly well off and economically strong and the majority of the world doesn't think its an asshole.

And I think Canada fullfills most if not all of these conditions, I'd say its already a superpower in my view 8)


Commendable comments all. R=UP

The thing is that a true superpower is at the very least able to protect itself from other superpowers. No offense to anyone, but right now there's plenty of Canadian territorial waters that are patrolled by other-than-Canadian submarines and Canada can't do anything about it.

And right now there's Russians and Chinese who are trying to open a debate on contesting Canadian claims to an awful lot of real estate. I think the only thing stopping those desires from becoming reality is a lot of steel that is not under the Maple Leaf.

As I've said before, while the USA, UK, NATO, and Canada are all on friendly terms right now we're always one election away from all of that changing.

Lord Palmerston Lord Palmerston:
Nations have no permanent friends or allies, they only have permanent interests.


While I am not so sure that the USA would ever invade Canada, more likely the threat is that the USA may one day be unwilling to defend Canada. :idea:

   



desertdude @ Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:47 pm

Cheers mate [B-o]

Seriously y'all should be more proud to be Canadian, and not get bogged down with self defeating inferiority complexes or trivial matters.

There is a saying in Islam. Always look at someone worse off than you to truly appreciate what you have.

( End of sermon :oops: )

   



bootlegga @ Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:57 am

EyeBrock EyeBrock:
Double immigration rates? We already have the highest per capita immigration rates in the G20.

Just importing people isn't going to do it.

Canada is doing pretty good already. I'd say it's definitely a world power. G8, G20, NATO etc. We are a leading member of the world community already.

Power, well how do you define real power? By the size of our population?

Bollocks.

There are plenty of Third world countries with way higher population levels that are dirt poor.


I wouldn't say Canada is a world power by any stretch of the imagination. Anyone who has spent time abroad knows how invisible Canada is on the world stage. Economically, militarily, politically, by just about every measure of power, Canada isn't a leader, and often not even in the top 10 nations.

Of course, that doesn't mean Canada isn't a fantastic place to live, or one of the most desirable destinations for immigrants in the world.

   



EyeBrock @ Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:28 am

bootlegga bootlegga:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
Double immigration rates? We already have the highest per capita immigration rates in the G20.

Just importing people isn't going to do it.

Canada is doing pretty good already. I'd say it's definitely a world power. G8, G20, NATO etc. We are a leading member of the world community already.

Power, well how do you define real power? By the size of our population?

Bollocks.

There are plenty of Third world countries with way higher population levels that are dirt poor.


I wouldn't say Canada is a world power by any stretch of the imagination. Anyone who has spent time abroad knows how invisible Canada is on the world stage. Economically, militarily, politically, by just about every measure of power, Canada isn't a leader, and often not even in the top 10 nations.

Of course, that doesn't mean Canada isn't a fantastic place to live, or one of the most desirable destinations for immigrants in the world.



I'll go along with a bit of that but Canada has increased it's global recognition with those dastardly Tories. You never used to see anything about Canada on the BBC website but now we are always on there.

The fact that our guys are side-by-side with the Brits and Yanks on Afganistan, G20,G8, NATO, F35 purchase, C17's etc has made people rethink the old Trudeau era labels that stuck to us well past his demise.

It might be trite but people know who we are now.

   



desertdude @ Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:40 am

Being an outsider I can comfotably say that ( Atleast in this part of the world ) Canada does not even register, is never in the news, papers, media etc etc. 99.9% of the people won't be able to tell who is the president of Canada is ! 8O :D.

But like they say no news is good news. I guess thats one of the reasons why people find it an attractive place to move. It minds its own bussiness and isn't trying to shove its wang chung down others peoples throat. And is more concerned with what happens with in it than out.

And I for one hope it always stays this way.

   



GreenTiger @ Sat Sep 18, 2010 9:56 am

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
desertdude desertdude:
Good question, what excatly constitues a super power. Money, Army, weapons, population ?

I think a country which tries its best to look after its citizens and residents, offering freedoms and rights, a decent to good standard of living , doesn't meddle in other peoples bussiness, is fairly well off and economically strong and the majority of the world doesn't think its an asshole.

And I think Canada fullfills most if not all of these conditions, I'd say its already a superpower in my view 8)


Commendable comments all. R=UP

The thing is that a true superpower is at the very least able to protect itself from other superpowers. No offense to anyone, but right now there's plenty of Canadian territorial waters that are patrolled by other-than-Canadian submarines and Canada can't do anything about it.

And right now there's Russians and Chinese who are trying to open a debate on contesting Canadian claims to an awful lot of real estate. I think the only thing stopping those desires from becoming reality is a lot of steel that is not under the Maple Leaf.

As I've said before, while the USA, UK, NATO, and Canada are all on friendly terms right now we're always one election away from all of that changing.

Lord Palmerston Lord Palmerston:
Nations have no permanent friends or allies, they only have permanent interests.


While I am not so sure that the USA would ever invade Canada, more likely the threat is that the USA may one day be unwilling to defend Canada. :idea:


Indeed there is quite a bit discussion in China and Russia (as one would expect) on how much of Canada they can chisle away. The only thing stopping the discussions from going further is NATO.

   



GreenTiger @ Sat Sep 18, 2010 9:59 am

desertdude desertdude:
Being an outsider I can comfotably say that ( Atleast in this part of the world ) Canada does not even register, is never in the news, papers, media etc etc. 99.9% of the people won't be able to tell who is the president of Canada is ! 8O :D.

But like they say no news is good news. I guess thats one of the reasons why people find it an attractive place to move. It minds its own bussiness and isn't trying to shove its wang chung down others peoples throat. And is more concerned with what happens with in it than out.

And I for one hope it always stays this way.


Hopefully the day will come when we won't to get into discussions about super powers and nations will take care of their own people and learn to be good neighbors.

   



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