Canadian politicians meet with U.S. deserter
2Cdo @ Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:33 pm
I'm curious if either one showed up for the wake or funeral of a Canadian soldier killed in Afghanistan who is from Toronto?
Actually, I'm not that curious because I know the answer already.
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"We have a culture of peace in Canada, of finding peaceful resolutions to conflict," Wrzesnewskyj said. Deporting deserters "undermines that principle."
No it doesnt, the man joined the military and when he was asked to do what he promised he chickened out and fled to foreign soil.
I'd have to agree with you on that but I will say that the recruiting practices utilized by the US military are hardly honest and forth coming.
By bother in law just signed up, he seems to think that he's going just for the education benefits and that he will have complete free reign to pick and choose what he wants to do once he completes basic. He also said that they told him there is only a very slim chance that he will be sent overseas and that he doesn't have to go if he doesn't want too.
He told me he's only signed up for two years and he gets a 35 thousand dollar signing bonus.
Does any of that sound accurate to you?
Tricks @ Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:41 pm
If they did, they'd probably get their ass beat.
2Cdo @ Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:46 pm
dino_bobba_renno dino_bobba_renno:
I'd have to agree with you on that but I will say that the recruiting practices utilized by the US military are hardly honest and forth coming.
By bother in law just signed up, he seems to think that he's going just for the education benefits and that he will have complete free reign to pick and choose what he wants to do once he completes basic. He also said that they told him there is only a very slim chance that he will be sent overseas and that he doesn't have to go if he doesn't want too.
He told me he's only signed up for two years and he gets a 35 thousand dollar signing bonus.
Does any of that sound accurate to you?
I'm sorry to say this dino but is your brother in law mentally challenged? He's joining a military that is fighting a two-front war meaning there is a good chance he will be deployed to one or both places at some point.
I can't comment on their signing bonus amounts but I know they do offer some enlistment financial bonuses, plus a two year term sounds like it is the US Army and not the Marines, Air Force or Navy.
I'm still debating the mentally challanged thing but it's what he wants to do (and has all ready done). He goes to school in the US and was part of the .... I forget what they call it, some kind of Cadet thing that's in the schools. They filled his head with so much shit that he doesn't know if he's coming or going. We tried to talk him into considering some other options or even waiting a few years but the ROTC thing he takes in school had him so pumped up he pretty much made up his mind by grade 11. I really wish they didn't push the military in the school system so hard down there. It's hardly fair imo.
I really don't think the military is being straight with him.
herbie @ Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:08 pm
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Invalid comparison, qutting McDonalds without giving notice is not a criminal offence.
Desertion, is.
Not here it isn't.
Being a poet is a criminal offense in Cuba. Should we send them back too?
Is he a good poet?
herbie herbie:
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Invalid comparison, qutting McDonalds without giving notice is not a criminal offence.
Desertion, is.
Not here it isn't.
Being a poet is a criminal offense in Cuba. Should we send them back too?
Invalid, you didn't sign up in Cuba to become a poet only to run away from your duties of being one.
herbie herbie:
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Invalid comparison, qutting McDonalds without giving notice is not a criminal offence.
Desertion, is.
Not here it isn't.
Being a poet is a criminal offense in Cuba. Should we send them back too?
You wanna bet?
88. (1) Every person who deserts or attempts to desert is guilty of an offence and on conviction, if the person committed the offence on active service or under orders for active service, is liable to imprisonment for life or to less punishment and, in any other case, is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years or to less punishment.From the National Defence Act.
herbie @ Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:15 am
You know what I mean.
Deserting someone else's army isn't a criminal offense in Canada.
Its not, but Canada should not become a haven for American criminals.
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Its not, but Canada should not become a haven for American criminals.
Your exactly right. Again, these people VOLUNTEERED to serve. They were not forced into service by a draft. Send them back to the US plain and simple.
mtbr @ Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:52 am
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Eisensapper Eisensapper:
Its not, but Canada should not become a haven for American criminals.
You make it sound like we're letting in rapists and murderers...I don't agree with letting him stay either, but can the rhetoric.
I dont see it as rhetoric, he is a criminal, thats a fact. I'm just calling it as it is. If I would have said something like " keep these vile yellow bellied criminal bastards in the states," that would have been rhetoric. 