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Court dismisses federal appeal over niqab at citizenship cer

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Newsbot @ Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:02 pm

Title: Court dismisses federal appeal over niqab at citizenship ceremonies | CTV News
Category: Religion
Posted By: uwish
Date: 2015-09-15 11:59:58
Canadian

   



uwish @ Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:02 pm

A very unfortunate decision. I can't believe how out of touch our judiciary is with the common folk...

   



Canadian_Mind @ Tue Sep 15, 2015 3:49 pm

Fuck me sideways. So far as I am concerned, if you are unwilling to take the oath you should not be granted the rights granted to people who take the oath. Charter rights should be citizen-only rights, not everyone and their dog.

   



2Cdo @ Tue Sep 15, 2015 3:50 pm

uwish uwish:
A very unfortunate decision. I can't believe how out of touch our judiciary is with the common folk...


Everything wrong with our legal system summed up in one article.

   



karra @ Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:28 pm

This is very troublesome.

Was in a traffic court this afternoon - a wisp of a thing dressed entirely in black - head to toe - uncovered slit for viewing - incapable of peripheral.

She was there with three brats who were allowed to terrorize and destroy kid's stuff in the corridor.

The JP asked her if she was; Mrs. xxxx - she replied, yes.

How does the JP know she is Mrs. xxx - just because she says so? Could have been moi or toi under that black bag.

Simply not good enough - can definitely see vigilante sorts taking to the roads, shopping centers and slums.

   



DrCaleb @ Wed Sep 16, 2015 6:24 am

http://www.torontosun.com/2015/09/15/ba ... lic-places

   



PJB @ Wed Sep 16, 2015 8:09 am

Yet another politically correct decision by a Federal Court that is simply too afraid to offend anyone that may appear to be a minority. I find the decision offensive and degrading towards women. It is also an insult to what the Prime Minister so widely defends as National Security. If I covered my face and walked into a bank I would be instantly looked at suspiciously yet some of these women do it proudly. This is not a religious choice but a practice designed to lower the status of women.

   



karra @ Wed Sep 16, 2015 9:26 am

This will now proceed to the SCC - hopefully, PMSH will be better prepared this time.

PJB PJB:
If I covered my face and walked into a bank I would be instantly looked at suspiciously yet some of these women do it proudly.

Or shot dead where you stood.

   



PJB @ Wed Sep 16, 2015 9:51 am

karra karra:
This will now proceed to the SCC - hopefully, PMSH will be better prepared this time.

PJB PJB:
If I covered my face and walked into a bank I would be instantly looked at suspiciously yet some of these women do it proudly.

Or shot dead where you stood.


I didn't want to mention the fact that I would be gang tackled or killed. Didn't want to paint a negative picture of 'legal' face coverings.

   



Freakinoldguy @ Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:55 am

uwish uwish:
A very unfortunate decision. I can't believe how out of touch our judiciary is with the common folk...


That's true but what scares me even more is the fact that they're a completely separate unaccountable branch of Gov't that makes policies and decisions with no oversight or recourse for the "common folk".

They, in essence are running the country not the elected officials and all anyone who wants a Gov't law, or bill changed has to do is appeal all the way to the Star Chamber and if it's politically correct, it's a done deal.

   



romanP @ Wed Sep 16, 2015 6:01 pm

PJB PJB:
Yet another politically correct decision by a Federal Court that is simply too afraid to offend anyone that may appear to be a minority. I find the decision offensive and degrading towards women. It is also an insult to what the Prime Minister so widely defends as National Security. If I covered my face and walked into a bank I would be instantly looked at suspiciously yet some of these women do it proudly. This is not a religious choice but a practice designed to lower the status of women.


it is, in fact, a religious choice, and there is a big difference between a religious garment and a disguise to rob a bank.

   



romanP @ Wed Sep 16, 2015 6:10 pm

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
uwish uwish:
A very unfortunate decision. I can't believe how out of touch our judiciary is with the common folk...


That's true but what scares me even more is the fact that they're a completely separate unaccountable branch of Gov't that makes policies and decisions with no oversight or recourse for the "common folk".

They, in essence are running the country not the elected officials and all anyone who wants a Gov't law, or bill changed has to do is appeal all the way to the Star Chamber and if it's politically correct, it's a done deal.



while i think that law should be more accessible to all, and is written in highly technical jargon in order to make it difficult for those it affects most to be able to interpret it and use it effectively, i can say that those versed well in the law because they have spent considerable time studying it are far better judges of what is and isn't good law than politicians who will use the law as a club to beat down anyone who opposes them or might be a threat to them, such as what our current government does consistently.

   



Hyack @ Wed Sep 16, 2015 6:30 pm

And I am sure there is also a big difference between wearing the niqab by choice as compared to having to wear it because it is demanded in the Quran!

   



romanP @ Wed Sep 16, 2015 6:57 pm

Hyack Hyack:
And I am sure there is also a big difference between wearing the niqab by choice as compared to having to wear it because it is demanded in the Quran!


it is not demanded in Qu'ran.

   



Hyack @ Wed Sep 16, 2015 7:05 pm

romanP romanP:
Hyack Hyack:
And I am sure there is also a big difference between wearing the niqab by choice as compared to having to wear it because it is demanded in the Quran!


it is not demanded in Qu'ran.


Exactly.... [B-o]

So anyone wearing one does so by choice, not because of religious decree!

   



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