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Newsbot @ Fri Jul 08, 2011 10:30 am

Title: Crown wants adult sentence if boy, 15, convicted in death of police officer
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: andyt
Date: 2011-07-08 10:22:38
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andyt @ Fri Jul 08, 2011 10:30 am

They just reported on another case in Ontario where a cop was killed and the perp got manslaughter. So even tho the person is charged with first degree murder, it seems the jury has the option of giving a lesser verdict.

   



EyeBrock @ Fri Jul 08, 2011 10:46 am

Judge or jury can always go up or down on charges laid.

   



andyt @ Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:01 am

EyeBrock EyeBrock:
Judge or jury can always go up or down on charges laid.


Up as well? You sure? I don't think I've ever heard of that before.

   



PJB @ Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:57 am

I thought that the top charge was to be decided first and then the remaining charges if allowed by the judge could be considered, not the other way around

   



herbie @ Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:32 am

The kid broke his neck when the van rolled, the whole talk is moot. We're talking at how long he stares at what colour of wall for.
Circumstance dealt him a far crueler punishment than any court.

   



putz @ Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:42 am

herbie herbie:
The kid broke his neck when the van rolled, the whole talk is moot. We're talking at how long he stares at what colour of wall for.
Circumstance dealt him a far crueler punishment than any court.


Nope, for the rest of his life anytime that he tries to do anything that involves getting run by the police for any reason, passport, cross the border etc. i should be flagged that he is a murderer. That will not happen if his convicted as a juvenile.

   



CommanderSock @ Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:36 am

putz putz:
herbie herbie:
The kid broke his neck when the van rolled, the whole talk is moot. We're talking at how long he stares at what colour of wall for.
Circumstance dealt him a far crueler punishment than any court.


Nope, for the rest of his life anytime that he tries to do anything that involves getting run by the police for any reason, passport, cross the border etc. i should be flagged that he is a murderer. That will not happen if his convicted as a juvenile.


Question: How does this work if you have multiple passports? Obviously the kid doesn't, but for people who do and are flagged. Can they still use their foreign passports to move around without setting off flags?

   



Gunnair @ Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:38 am

putz putz:
herbie herbie:
The kid broke his neck when the van rolled, the whole talk is moot. We're talking at how long he stares at what colour of wall for.
Circumstance dealt him a far crueler punishment than any court.


Nope, for the rest of his life anytime that he tries to do anything that involves getting run by the police for any reason, passport, cross the border etc. i should be flagged that he is a murderer. That will not happen if his convicted as a juvenile.


I think the point is that the kid is now paralyzed. Whether he's convicted as a juvie or not, he's getting a far worse punishment than what the justice system usually would dole out. Karma did the job this time.

   



EyeBrock @ Sat Jul 09, 2011 5:37 pm

andyt andyt:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
Judge or jury can always go up or down on charges laid.


Up as well? You sure? I don't think I've ever heard of that before.


It's less prevalent than dropping down a peg but sometimes further evidence comes out at trial and charges are laid in court.

   



herbie @ Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:02 pm

putz putz:
herbie herbie:
The kid broke his neck when the van rolled, the whole talk is moot. We're talking at how long he stares at what colour of wall for.
Circumstance dealt him a far crueler punishment than any court.


Nope, for the rest of his life anytime that he tries to do anything that involves getting run by the police for any reason, passport, cross the border etc. i should be flagged that he is a murderer. That will not happen if his convicted as a juvenile.


Oh Jeez, we can worry about that when the PC crowd makes all the rides at Disneyland wheelchair accessible, ok?
Who cares about crossing the border, God made sure this kid's gonna spend the rest fo his life wishing he could cross the room.

Instant Karma.

   



PublicAnimalNo9 @ Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:49 am

Cross the room? Hell, he'll be lucky if he can cross his legs.

   



Proculation @ Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:45 am

I thought that killing a cop was automatically first degree murder. So a life sentence.

If the kid didn't do it accidentally, he should get that.

   



OnTheIce @ Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:19 pm

I'm just happy he'll be shitting into a bag the rest of his life. His friends must think he's so cool now! He's the bad-ass that ran from the cops.

   



EyeBrock @ Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:32 pm

I'm sure he's regretting the whole thing during every waking hour OTI. This killing is such a tragedy on so many levels.

   



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