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I'm going to be involved in what ever living history events are in store for 2012, dressed as Royal Navy boat crew most likely.

   

As there will always be Brits who cling to tradition and colonial arrogance as that's all they have left.

   

In the boundary agreements the Brits (having learned a lesson in respect in the War of 1812) sided with the Americans. The San Juans not so much but they gave away half the BC coast, much, much more than the US even asked for. Canada (and BC) got Royally screwed on that deal.

   

Yawn.

Nice try at trolling herbie.

   

Works well on the relatives around the dinner table who've moved here in the 50s and are still Brits. Their usual response is to look at the wife and comment that at least she married someone half white....
But your comments seem to belittle the contributions of the people who lived here at the time and play to the American argument that invalidates them as Canadians.

   

I'm just looking at the historical facts herbie mate. The major Canadian contribution militarily came from the Mohawks. The Colonial Militia weren't really up to much and the majority of the heavy lifting was done by Brit regulars with a lot of help from the Mohawks and their allies. Just saying it as it was and not after causing any offence.

   

Which makes one wonder why this guy:

isn't given more respect.

Same as this guy:

   

Well, you do make it super-easy for them.

   

They got plenty of respect from the Brits and the Yanks were shit-scared of them! And I agree Fife. Whatever those wankers in Caledonia etc are up to now doesn't erase the major and positive role the Mohawks had in the foundation of Canada.

   

for that. I don't know anything about the Caledonia thing, but I do know that direct action sometimes is all that works. The community I worked in for 30 years was proof of that.

   

I think that the war of 1812 was nothing more that a fledgling country trying to spread it's wings and a British colony that didn't quite agree with the idea. Canada did not exist until 1867 so to claim that Canada beat the United States is totally false. What both nations learned from this little squabble is that we both are better off if we co-operate rather than fight. Canada and the United States have been so blessed by the fact that neither nation has been invaded by foreign nations. We are better off together than we are apart.

Anyone can look at any history book and interpret it differently. The key thing is that we all learn from it and avoid repeating it.

   

Canada (Upper Canada, then, I guess) kicked US ass. They wanted to conquer Canada. Canada sent them packing. You can argueb the points all day long. To me the fact the invasion of Canada has been virtually expunged from US history is all the evidence I need.

The Brits are the same with the American War of Independence. You know "Oh, I'm sure it was a big deal for _you_ guys, but we never really registered it. It was part of a grander game."

   

I suggest you take another look at history here. Basically what you are saying is that nothing matters before Canada 'officially' and was 'recognized' as a country that matters. Before Canada was a 'recognized' country nothing matters. I can't stress enough about those typical comments that 'Canada did not exist therefore they didn't do anything' comments. History doesn't work that way my friend and if you take a look at other countries' histories, they did not exist either but their history is just as rich and proud.

Wrong. U.S was invaded by Britain and Canada was invaded by the U.S. No matter how you spin it, it's true.

   

Good points.

   

I agree. Since moving to Canada I have taken a great interest in it's history. I'm lucky enough to get $2500 worth of continuing education per year and I have taken advantage of that by taking Canadian history courses through local universities.

The period prior to Confederation is a very interesting one and is a much a part of Canadian history as the events post-Confederation. Some people seem to have a hard time in seeing the facts here.

The facts are that the war of 1812 was a major event in Canadian history. But people also need to realise that the majority of the fighting and dying was by British troops and their Mohawk allies. The colonial militias took little part in most battles.

Somewhere in the mix over the years the British involvement and leadership in this war has been 'downgraded' and supplanted with unfounded Canadian involvement that has a distinctly anti-US tinge to it's untruths. Misplaced nationalism methinks and I expect we will see a lot more of it from our uneducated mass media.

Just because Canada wasn’t an official country in 1812 doesn’t mean this isn’t Canadian history. That would be like saying the Roman invasion of England in 55 BC isn’t English history because England wasn’t officially a country until the 10th century. Very silly.

   

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