Dion demands 'steely discipline'
canadian1971 @ Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:41 am
DerbyX DerbyX:
blah blah blah.
Same shit from the cons...........
Same shit from the cons...........
Does that really surprise you though Derby?
Stupid partisan hacks.
Benoit @ Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:51 am
The action which performative sentences 'perform' when they are uttered is a speech act (more particularly an illocutionary act). "I'm the chief and I demand discipline" is an example of that.
ryan29 @ Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:26 pm
Benoit Benoit:
ryan29 ryan29:
dion demands descipline ?
anyone else see the poll from quebec on ctv site , it looks like the liberals are in trouble . actually trouble would be an understatement if the poll was correct . they'd be luck to win more than 10 seats there if those numbers hold , think the liberals were only at 20% , bloc and cpc were tied at 30 % , ndp at 15% , was an odd poll but seemed accurate and detailed .
but yeah it looks like dion and liberals are in a little bit of trouble in quebec .
anyone else see the poll from quebec on ctv site , it looks like the liberals are in trouble . actually trouble would be an understatement if the poll was correct . they'd be luck to win more than 10 seats there if those numbers hold , think the liberals were only at 20% , bloc and cpc were tied at 30 % , ndp at 15% , was an odd poll but seemed accurate and detailed .
but yeah it looks like dion and liberals are in a little bit of trouble in quebec .
Dion demands disciple because he knows that. If only you can move on too, you're redundant.
i'm redundant ? no i just want to make sure everyone see's just how bad things have become for the liberals in quebec . they are no longer the federalist option either , that role belongs to the conservatives now.
quebec is now a disaster waiting to happen for dion , made worse by his demotion of coderre and addition of mp's all from the toronto area. liberal party of toronto here they come .
DerbyX @ Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:34 pm
canadian1971 canadian1971:
DerbyX DerbyX:
blah blah blah.
Same shit from the cons...........
Same shit from the cons...........
Does that really surprise you though Derby?
Stupid partisan hacks.
No, it doesn't surprise me anymore. ridenhack is such a blind partisan hack that he can't even quote me honestly.
Turnabout becomes fair play.
ridenrain @ Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:44 pm
Pretty early for you to start drinking, Derby.
This is where I got you're quote.
ridenrain ridenrain:
DerbyX DerbyX:
You just don't understand do you? 
That power is only dangerous in that hands of people who won't use it properly.
The cons will use it to enact disgustingly religious and socially backward policies and the NDP will likely enact policies that will harm the economy.
Time anad again the liberals have shown a savy grasp of both positions.
Your party cannot claim that.
No. If you read carefully, its not that the power is a temptation its that I don't trust the CPC or NDP with it. I do trust the Liberals with it though.
$1:
If such power is dangerous in the hands of any one majority leader, dosen't it make sense to put restrictions on it then?
That power is only dangerous in that hands of people who won't use it properly.
The cons will use it to enact disgustingly religious and socially backward policies and the NDP will likely enact policies that will harm the economy.
Time anad again the liberals have shown a savy grasp of both positions.
Your party cannot claim that.
$1:
You must agree that what's a dangerous temptation for the Liberals is just as dangerous for the Conservatives and any other party.
No. If you read carefully, its not that the power is a temptation its that I don't trust the CPC or NDP with it. I do trust the Liberals with it though.
No answer needed because that's enough for me. I just want to record that so it can't be changed.
What you're saying is that what's dangerous for one party is safe and acceptable for the other. I'm sure all great dictatoships started out with those exact thoughts.
Show me where you got mine.
DerbyX @ Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:51 pm
You quoted me out of context and missed a word that clearly explained I was referring to governing with a majority and not some machiavellian illuminati power.
You acted like a child throughout the debate and clearly kept misrepresenting my position either because you are to stupid to figure it out or were to dishonest to debate intelligently.
You are a partisan hack and a hypocrite in the worst wat excusing your own party of the very acts you condmen others for.
I base my opinion on the issues, something you have shown yourself utterly incapable off.
Either you remove your dishonest misrepresentation of my post or mine stays up and it will get worse.
Your move hack.
PS -- Once again by immortalizing my words on your profile you simply show my ownership of you.
ridenrain @ Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:00 pm
You are such a sad loser.
If you don't want to look like a fool, simply don't post drunk.
$1:
PS -- Once again by immortalizing my words on your profile you simply show my ownership of you.
Is that why you followed suit? Who owns who?
power is only dangerous in that hands of people who won't use it properly. Time anad again the liberals have shown a savy grasp of both positions
I took out one sentance and a word that changed nothing. I even left in you're spelling problems. This entry is from page 2 on this thread and is clear for all to see.
You can't show me where you got that because you made it up.
It's funny because it's so pathetic.
Benoit @ Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:06 pm
ryan29 ryan29:
Benoit Benoit:
ryan29 ryan29:
dion demands descipline ?
anyone else see the poll from quebec on ctv site , it looks like the liberals are in trouble . actually trouble would be an understatement if the poll was correct . they'd be luck to win more than 10 seats there if those numbers hold , think the liberals were only at 20% , bloc and cpc were tied at 30 % , ndp at 15% , was an odd poll but seemed accurate and detailed .
but yeah it looks like dion and liberals are in a little bit of trouble in quebec .
anyone else see the poll from quebec on ctv site , it looks like the liberals are in trouble . actually trouble would be an understatement if the poll was correct . they'd be luck to win more than 10 seats there if those numbers hold , think the liberals were only at 20% , bloc and cpc were tied at 30 % , ndp at 15% , was an odd poll but seemed accurate and detailed .
but yeah it looks like dion and liberals are in a little bit of trouble in quebec .
Dion demands disciple because he knows that. If only you can move on too, you're redundant.
i'm redundant ? no i just want to make sure everyone see's just how bad things have become for the liberals in quebec . they are no longer the federalist option either , that role belongs to the conservatives now.
quebec is now a disaster waiting to happen for dion , made worse by his demotion of coderre and addition of mp's all from the toronto area. liberal party of toronto here they come .
A chief is essentially a scapegoat. In traditional (conservative) societies, his head was rolling quickly. In modern society, the chief can buy more and more time before he is deposed. Buying time requires making subalterns' heads rolling. Dion is not a pawn (pion), Coderre is.
DerbyX @ Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:09 pm
ridenrain ridenrain:
You are such a sad loser.
If you don't want to look like a fool, simply don't post drunk.
Is that why you followed suit? Who owns who?
power is only dangerous in that hands of people who won't use it properly. Time anad again the liberals have shown a savy grasp of both positions
I took out one sentance and a word that changed nothing. I even left in you're spelling problems. This entry is from page 2 on this thread and is clear for all to see.
You can't show me where you got that because you made it up.
It's funny because it's so pathetic.
If you don't want to look like a fool, simply don't post drunk.
$1:
PS -- Once again by immortalizing my words on your profile you simply show my ownership of you.
Is that why you followed suit? Who owns who?
power is only dangerous in that hands of people who won't use it properly. Time anad again the liberals have shown a savy grasp of both positions
I took out one sentance and a word that changed nothing. I even left in you're spelling problems. This entry is from page 2 on this thread and is clear for all to see.
You can't show me where you got that because you made it up.
It's funny because it's so pathetic.
You altered the quote dishonestly and you know it. Its entirely why your ethics were not bothered in the least by Harpers bribe attempt.
Shuffle on hack and don't forget your sippy cup. As that thread showed I had to lower my intelligence down to your level and explain everything to you like I always do.
If you weren't such a blind partisan hack then you just wouldn't be you would you.
ridenrain @ Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:14 pm
Still admitting you made up my quote?
Every post past my challenge is more and more proof.
Still unable to resist getting the last word in also.
Benoit @ Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:16 pm
Paul Martin fight against chronic public deficits and Alfonso Gagliano love for Italian-style politics are now impeding Stephane Dion.
DerbyX @ Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:18 pm
ridenrain ridenrain:
Still admitting you made up my quote?
Every post past my challenge is more and more proof.
Still unable to resist getting the last word in also.
Every post past my challenge is more and more proof.
Still unable to resist getting the last word in also.
If you can't read what I wrote properly to figure it out then I'm not going to explain it.
Even a kindergarten teachers gets to go home and get away from the kids.
Benoit @ Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:20 pm
DerbyX DerbyX:
ridenrain ridenrain:
Still admitting you made up my quote?
Every post past my challenge is more and more proof.
Still unable to resist getting the last word in also.
Every post past my challenge is more and more proof.
Still unable to resist getting the last word in also.
If you can't read what I wrote properly to figure it out then I'm not going to explain it.
Even a kindergarten teachers gets to go home and get away from the kids.
Use private messages please.
ridenrain @ Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:22 pm
Do what you like. Mine stands as a direct quote that's clear for everyone to see and read for themselves. That's good, honest proof that can't be spun.
Either stop posting while drinking or don't be such a hack.
Benoit @ Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:24 pm
ridenrain ridenrain:
Do what you like. Mine stands as a direct quote that's clear for everyone to see and read for themselves. That's good, honest proof that can't be spun.
Either stop posting while drinking or don't be such a hack.
Either stop posting while drinking or don't be such a hack.
Use private messages please.