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Nope, the person who commits those acts are the ones to blame. Besides, I don't see people you offering to take the blame for the guy who shot a Sikh after 9/11 or the people who vandalize mosques after fuelling up on hateful rhetoric like the kind you're spewing.

   

Nope. The social liberals that inflicted this absolutely disastrous immigration policy on the western nations after WW2 are the ones solely responsible for when it turns around and bites us on the ass, like it did on Sept 11. I realize that social liberals are really bad at taking any responsibility at all for when one of your theories goes bust but that doesn't erase your moral liability for it.

If immigration from hostile and backwards societies was so great for our countries than how come the liberal politicians that implemented it never had the courage, not even once, to put it before their own polities in the form of a referendum? Were you scared of being embarrassed when the voters would have assuredly given the idea a resounding "no"?

   

LOL WTF are you talking about, none of the 911 hijackers were immigrants.

Also, the 911 attack was 14 years ago and hasn't been repeated since. Meanwhile, just as many migrants drowned in the Mediterranean this year alone as died in the Twin Towers 14 years ago.

So again get off your persecution complex please.


Yes, Conservatives are the kings of mea culpas right? That's why they're all apologizing for the false war in Iraq and decades of disasterous Middle East policy that plays into all of this?


The same point has been argued regarding ending slavery, granting women the right to vote, same sex marriage, interracial marriage, Civil Rights etc. All of those would have failed a referendum. But the whole point of rights is to blunt the bigoted tyranny of the majority

   

If they don't live in this country and contribute nothing to this country then they have no right to anything from this country. If you're so gung-ho on helping these worthless sons of bitches then you be the first goddamn one to hand the keys to your house over to a pack of them. Don't you dare fucking tell me or anyone else who objects to this idiocy that I'm obligated to do it at all.

   

They had referenda about every 4 - 5 years. Called elections. If all those elections produced liberal governments, hate to see what troglodytes the ones who didn't get in were.

   

Oh great, here's the grand vizier of everything that right and humane ready to chip in his five cents.

   

Said the the guy who can't decide whether he feels more sorry for himself or hates others more.

   

What does it matter anyway? You guys won a long time ago. Just because the death spiral of our countries, thanks entirely to policies that people like you shoved onto the rest of us, is taking longer than previously assumed doesn't mean that it isn't all coming to an end. That's the real legacy of your big soft hearts, nothing but the destruction of everything that much better people than yourselves had created.

   

awwwww. Poor baby. Look - Muslims.

   

Yup, your good buddies, just like you've been cheering all along for them this past year with what they've done to Alberta. You're a genuine Canadian, in that you have no problem at all with stabbing your own in the back because you genuinely hate some of your fellow citizens much more than you ever will any foreign enemy. That's you and the bad side of the Canadian character in a nutshell.

   

Getting back on track from my earlier comment, they don't have a right to receive any aid or obtain refuge in this country. That's not what I'm saying. That's a policy decision and there are reasons for and against.

I took issue to the way you have such contempt and cold indifference for what are clearly women and small children. How you cannot feel any empathy towards toddlers drowning at sea or innocent human beings including women and children clearly in dire situations is beyond me. In fact you and the other right-wing thugs on this site seem to cheer and celebrate it.

Your "the only good Muslim is a dead Muslim" mindset which you extend right on down to innocent babies and children is chilling. It's no different than what they shouted from loudspeakers about Tutsis in Rwanda.

   

Everything about this country is due to 'soft hearted' liberals. There's always been mass immigration from the impoverished parts of the world and 20th century civil society as we know it in our lifetime came from the great welfare state that built the middle class. I don't know what or who the fuck you're referring to.

Homo Sapiens have been on this planet for 35,000 years, and for all 35,000 of those, there's been some troglodyte social conservative trying to prevent everyone from changing and insisting that we all forever live, act and think exactly the way the conservative was taught as a child, the only "right" way. For all 35,000 of those years those conservatives have failed. The world keeps changing.
But hey keep it up, maybe next year's your year.

   

When the time comes that the ones you and andy feel so damn sorry for finally take control I genuinely hope that it's your necks that they put on the block first. You act like you have such huge consciences but you have no concern at all what's going to happen to this country in the future thanks to you wanting more of this absolute garbage let in here. Islam is the most retrograde, atavistic, primitive, and tyrannical force that's ever been created in this world, worse even than communism, fascism, and Nazism. It ruins everything everywhere it takes root. People like you are killing our countries. You are literally killing all of our countries with your childish ideas.

I'm not a conservative either. I'm a cynic, a skeptic, and a realist. I'm the one who has to say these things when people like you who are permanently stuck in fantasy land think up some of this crap that will end up ripping us apart.

   

Well said, but guys like andy and beaver will not get it until it's too fucking late.

   

They didn't seem too happy when I told them that their side had already won. Not that they're content with the damage they've already caused though. They won't be happy until there isn't a single bit of the old Western countries left intact. None of our traditions left. None of what we fought for left. Nothing of what we used to believe in and stand for left. Just something that's been ripped up and burned to the ground in the name of their ideology.

   

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