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hamiltonguyo @ Tue Jul 18, 2006 2:56 pm

Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:
One thing that I notice not being said here is that innocent children, who are 6 and 10 years of age, were subjected to this. I guess it's alright to scar the children right? They should have to see something they know nothing about...


and guess what these kids will never get abortions.

ah it worked didn't it?

   



Arctic_Menace @ Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:05 pm

You are such an ass. First off you don't know that. Haven't you a fucking heart?! Okay, dismembered fetuses are okay to show children, but not boobs. Christ man!!! :roll:

These kids will have this nightmare with them for a long time. But because(we're assuming) they won't get abortions(two boys), it's perfectly alright. :roll:

   



Ripcat @ Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:24 pm

Hey, if we showed sexually active teen girls the videos of messy live births where the mother has shit herself while pushing and there is blood and afterbirth all over her, or screams in pain for an hour non-stop, or has her belly sliced open and the baby pulled out through there due to a cesarean section do you think the teens would swear off having sex or just be more inclined to have an abortion if they found themselves pregnant?

   



Mosleyite @ Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:30 pm

Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:
$1:
Mosleyite wrote:
I used to associate with many a liberal.


Very poor company.


:roll:

Are you quite doen being an ignoramus? And how would know that liberals make poor company? Have you met all liberals? Is your hate for them that blind?


I used to be a card-carrying Liberal. I've talked with Bill Graham, Brison (the flip-flopper from out east) Shawn Graham (MB Liberal Party Leader), Barbara Hall, Matt LeBlanc, Carolyn Bennett, and a host of others in person for more than a sound-byte's worth of time. I realize that these are big "L" liberals, but they're the ones who's names are known. I've been in environmental associations, anti-war protests, and land-mine picknicks. At every venue there have been dedicated people concerned about the issues. Then there are the liberals - people who like to 'brand' themselves with their political association.

My hate is not blind - it is the end result of my participation in high liberal culture and ultimate disgust with the lies and the unwillingness of those who were around me to understand the little things like history, the powers available to them, and the fact that they blind themselves with statistics that a chimp would have dumped on in the 1930's.

   



Arctic_Menace @ Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:33 pm

I was calling GFPB an ignoramus, not you.

   



Arctic_Menace @ Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:35 pm

Ripcat Ripcat:
Hey, if we showed sexually active teen girls the videos of messy live births where the mother has shit herself while pushing and there is blood and afterbirth all over her, or screams in pain for an hour non-stop, or has her belly sliced open and the baby pulled out through there due to a cesarean section do you think the teens would swear off having sex or just be more inclined to have an abortion if they found themselves pregnant?


Good Question..... I shall test this theory immediately, by sacrificinf myself to women.


*leaves to go pick up chicks, have sex with them, and then watch birth videos...*

   



Hardy @ Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:44 pm

Well, you know how it is around here, things like freedom of speech, or a right to privacy, or to not be bothered by people when you're minding your own business are all conditional. It's all a matter of which side of a political divide you're on, whether or not there's any sense to that divide.

To borrow a snippet from another thread,

$1:
Rev_Blair Rev_Blair:
You really have no respect for those who died, do you? They died in service to their country and deserve to be honoured nationally. That means press coverage of their repatriation ceremonies.


No it does not. If you want to see body bags and caskets go to a funeral home or a hospital


Oh, OK... unless we're talking about aborted fetuses, in which case people should be forced to see them...

Got it.

   



grainfedprairieboy @ Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:46 pm

Hardy Hardy:
grainfedprairieboy grainfedprairieboy:
Which 19th French philosopher stated that "if you are not a liberal in your 20s you have no heart. If you are still a liberal in your 40s then you have no mind."


None. It was a conservative politician who said that (and a 20th century British one, just for the record).


Unfortunately no. I don’t doubt for a minute a Conservative British politician used this quote but he was not the originator. The gentleman I am referring to was a French politician who later turned to philosophical pontifications on the ideology of nationalism and statehood. He heavily influenced modern political thought for both sides in most of the Judeo-Christian states and Trudeau cited his works as having made a significant impact on him and his own ideology when he was young. His name was similar to “Rosseau”. I would appreciate any information from anyone who knows.

Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:

All I am saying, is that these people should've stopped and thought about possible consequences. This is something the media has learned to do quite well...


If you are referring to censorship of objective opinion then I concur.

Wada Wada:
Of all the "soldiers" on here he's the only one I recall talking about his kills.


Most military personnel go their entire careers without being placed in a position where they must take a life. For those who are an even fewer number can attest to a confirmed kill. But for those who can they deal with it in several ways. Some talk about it a lot as they psychologically deal with it. Others bottle it and bury it in some dark recess of their inner consciousness. Remember, a soldier has to turn off everything society has taught him when he pulls the trigger and remember it when he returns home.

Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:
Are you quite doen being an ignoramus? And how would know that liberals make poor company? Have you met all liberals? Is your hate for them that blind?


It was a joke. Lighten up and stop being such a sensitive lieberal. Are you incapable of distinguishing humour unless the sentence is accompanied by an indicative emoticon?

   



Hardy @ Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:07 pm

grainfedprairieboy grainfedprairieboy:
Hardy Hardy:
grainfedprairieboy grainfedprairieboy:
Which 19th French philosopher stated that "if you are not a liberal in your 20s you have no heart. If you are still a liberal in your 40s then you have no mind."


None. It was a conservative politician who said that (and a 20th century British one, just for the record).


Unfortunately no. I don’t doubt for a minute a Conservative British politician used this quote but he was not the originator. The gentleman I am referring to was a French politician who later turned to philosophical pontifications on the ideology of nationalism and statehood. He heavily influenced modern political thought for both sides in most of the Judeo-Christian states and Trudeau cited his works as having made a significant impact on him and his own ideology when he was young. His name was similar to “Rosseau”. I would appreciate any information from anyone who knows.

Francois Guizot (sometimes spelled "Guisot") (1787-1874) was a monarchist politico who opposed the restoration of the French republic during the reign of Louis Philippe. He said,
"Not to be a republican at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head."

So according to him, when you grow up, unless you're stupid, you're a monarchist.

The quote you gave is closer to an altered version of it later concocted by Clemenceau, and identical to a version still later attributed to Winston Churchill.

   



foxybcgurl @ Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:31 pm

I am not for or against abortion. I think it depends on the situation. I mean, if it weren't for abortion, there'd be a helluva lot more f'd up people in this world. Some people just shouldn't have children.
However I do not think that there should be billboards of aborted babies. Imagine how some people feel when they drive by that, the people who have had abortions and extremely regret it.

All in all, abortion is really a very touchy subject.

   



hamiltonguyo @ Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:34 pm

Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:
You are such an ass. First off you don't know that. Haven't you a fucking heart?! Okay, dismembered fetuses are okay to show children, but not boobs. Christ man!!! :roll:

These kids will have this nightmare with them for a long time. But because(we're assuming) they won't get abortions(two boys), it's perfectly alright. :roll:


not saying i approve just that it probably will have that effect...

   



Hardy @ Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:36 pm

hamiltonguyo hamiltonguyo:
Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:
These kids will have this nightmare with them for a long time. But because(we're assuming) they won't get abortions(two boys), it's perfectly alright. :roll:


not saying i approve just that it probably will have that effect...


I think it's safe to say that boys won't get abortions no matter what, and that the pictures had no effect on that whatsoever.

   



hamiltonguyo @ Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:40 pm

Hardy Hardy:
hamiltonguyo hamiltonguyo:
Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:
These kids will have this nightmare with them for a long time. But because(we're assuming) they won't get abortions(two boys), it's perfectly alright. :roll:


not saying i approve just that it probably will have that effect...


I think it's safe to say that boys won't get abortions no matter what, and that the pictures had no effect on that whatsoever.


they were boys? oooops

sry i was responding to artic menance who just mentioned children

I think honestly that this prolly shouldn't be put up where people who society shelters can see it.

But putting a few at an abortion clinic i don't think would be out of line

   



hamiltonguyo @ Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:06 pm

WDHIII WDHIII:
$1:
Pro-choice activists stage counter protest
Last Updated: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 | 5:20 PM AT
CBC News

Pro-choice supporters rallied in Fredericton on Tuesday afternoon to protest against tactics used by an anti-abortion group.

Dozens of people called Mayor Brad Woodside's home, the city and the police after an Ontario-based group called Show the Truth displayed large graphic images of aborted fetuses along Fredericton's main streets on Monday.

"It just crossed the line between a demonstration and a rally, and being confrontational and vulgar and crude," said Emma Stropel, who took part in the rally against the anti-abortion display.

"I was uncomfortable with the images and I was just uncomfortable with the idea. I completely support their right to demonstrate just as we do but there are levels, there are limits to what you can do."

Stropel said she feels women in New Brunswick should be able to get abortions more easily. They should all be publicly funded, no matter where they're performed, she said.

The provincial government doesn't fund abortions done at the Morgentaler clinic in Fredericton.


now i don't approve of the demonstraters putting the images up but if these women are uncomfortable with the images doesn't that tell you something?

looks like somebody doesn't like the reality of what she supports.

   



grainfedprairieboy @ Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:30 pm

Hardy Hardy:
grainfedprairieboy grainfedprairieboy:
Hardy Hardy:
grainfedprairieboy grainfedprairieboy:
Which 19th French philosopher stated that "if you are not a liberal in your 20s you have no heart. If you are still a liberal in your 40s then you have no mind."


None. It was a conservative politician who said that (and a 20th century British one, just for the record).


Unfortunately no. I don’t doubt for a minute a Conservative British politician used this quote but he was not the originator. The gentleman I am referring to was a French politician who later turned to philosophical pontifications on the ideology of nationalism and statehood. He heavily influenced modern political thought for both sides in most of the Judeo-Christian states and Trudeau cited his works as having made a significant impact on him and his own ideology when he was young. His name was similar to “Rosseau”. I would appreciate any information from anyone who knows.

Francois Guizot (sometimes spelled "Guisot") (1787-1874) was a monarchist politico who opposed the restoration of the French republic during the reign of Louis Philippe. He said,
"Not to be a republican at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head."

So according to him, when you grow up, unless you're stupid, you're a monarchist.

The quote you gave is closer to an altered version of it later concocted by Clemenceau, and identical to a version still later attributed to Winston Churchill.


Its quite possible that I am confusing my 18th century French political chieftains. However, you have given me a new avenue to explore. Much obliged.

   



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