Gilles Duceppe will continue to push for a stronger Bill 101
Newsbot @ Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:48 am
Title: Gilles Duceppe will continue to push for a stronger Bill 101
Category: Political
Posted By: Hyack
Date: 2009-06-06 21:49:33
Canadian
kenmore @ Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:48 am
Pauline Marois is an Ahole and she would build a brick wall around Quebec and stifle free speech. She is dangerous in my opinion.
As for M. Duceppe,,, well what else can he say he is supposed to represent the interests of Quebec in Ottawa.. The language bill is a good thing but it shouldn't be that stringent as to isolate Quebecers from the world. Personally my kids speak both languages and my grandchildren as well. One is learning Mandarin. The PQ is a divisive and isolation party who are a threat to democracy.
uwish @ Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:23 am
any province that has language police should take a good hard look at their society
Bodah @ Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:52 am
I dont know why I'm still living in this dumb-ass province, even Francophones are leaving in drones.
If you think this cazy ass language shit is only happening in Quebec, think again.
http://www.galganov.com/editorials.asp?ID=1134
Proculation @ Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:02 am
I thought Duceppe was working at Ottawa... 
Pimpbrewski @ Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:19 am
Hey now, I demand that this thread be in French. 
OnTheIce @ Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:33 am
You're not special because you speak French.
When will this sink in for these idiots?
raydan @ Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:43 am
In a hundred years, there will probably be English Language police across Canada since English will be the third language in the country after Mandarin and Hindi.
kenmore @ Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:40 am
You are absolutely right raydan.. I said it before..when English is threatened and it will be..then people will sit up and take notice.. The cause of bill 101 was the erosion of french by immigration and assimilation. But it goes beyond just wanting french it was and issue of culture and heritage as well.
uwish @ Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:04 am
my argument is that if a culture is good, healthy and important it will survive on it's own without any mandated 'love French or be fined' type laws.
It it can not survive on its own, then perhaps it shouldn't
kenmore @ Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:33 pm
uwish uwish:
my argument is that if a culture is good, healthy and important it will survive on it's own without any mandated 'love French or be fined' type laws.
It it can not survive on its own, then perhaps it shouldn't
It it can not survive on its own, then perhaps it shouldn't
Your statement sounds good on the surface.. but sociologists would have a good time picking it apart. The reason behind bill 101 in Quebec is loss of language and culture by immigration or assimilation. The same could happen is places like BC where the influx of a multitude of immigrants have a profound effect on the population. Where the numbers warrant the language of choice would be their native tongue. This would suppress the mother tongue of the indigenous people ( ie natives) and in the case of Canada through its founding nations (post native) english or french. And to protect themselves and survive in a mostly English speaking north america Quebec developed the language law.. and its a good thing.. n'est pas?
RUEZ @ Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:41 pm
kenmore kenmore:
Pauline Marois is an Ahole and she would build a brick wall around Quebec and stifle free speech. She is dangerous in my opinion.
As for M. Duceppe,,, well what else can he say he is supposed to represent the interests of French Quebec in Ottawa.. The language bill is a good thing but it shouldn't be that stringent as to isolate Quebecers from the world. Personally my kids speak both languages and my grandchildren as well. One is learning Mandarin. The PQ is a divisive and isolation party who are a threat to democracy.
As for M. Duceppe,,, well what else can he say he is supposed to represent the interests of French Quebec in Ottawa.. The language bill is a good thing but it shouldn't be that stringent as to isolate Quebecers from the world. Personally my kids speak both languages and my grandchildren as well. One is learning Mandarin. The PQ is a divisive and isolation party who are a threat to democracy.
There fixed that up for you.
Bodah @ Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:44 pm
kenmore kenmore:
uwish uwish:
my argument is that if a culture is good, healthy and important it will survive on it's own without any mandated 'love French or be fined' type laws.
It it can not survive on its own, then perhaps it shouldn't
It it can not survive on its own, then perhaps it shouldn't
Your statement sounds good on the surface.. but sociologists would have a good time picking it apart. The reason behind bill 101 in Quebec is loss of language and culture by immigration or assimilation. The same could happen is places like BC where the influx of a multitude of immigrants have a profound effect on the population. Where the numbers warrant the language of choice would be their native tongue. This would suppress the mother tongue of the indigenous people ( ie natives) and in the case of Canada through its founding nations (post native) english or french. And to protect themselves and survive in a mostly English speaking north america Quebec developed the language law.. and its a good thing.. n'est pas?
I'll give credit where credit is due, Quebec has done a good job as far as it comes to protecting it's culture/language and should be used as an example for the rest of us.
The danger is though making sure the pendulum doesn't swing to far to the left or right, depending on your point of view.
kenmore @ Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:32 pm
Gilles might want to read this.. not intended as an attack on him.. just the facts jack et pauline http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/090609/c ... sts_poll_1
uwish @ Tue Jun 09, 2009 3:14 pm
kenmore kenmore:
uwish uwish:
my argument is that if a culture is good, healthy and important it will survive on it's own without any mandated 'love French or be fined' type laws.
It it can not survive on its own, then perhaps it shouldn't
It it can not survive on its own, then perhaps it shouldn't
Your statement sounds good on the surface.. but sociologists would have a good time picking it apart. The reason behind bill 101 in Quebec is loss of language and culture by immigration or assimilation. The same could happen is places like BC where the influx of a multitude of immigrants have a profound effect on the population. Where the numbers warrant the language of choice would be their native tongue. This would suppress the mother tongue of the indigenous people ( ie natives) and in the case of Canada through its founding nations (post native) english or french. And to protect themselves and survive in a mostly English speaking north america Quebec developed the language law.. and its a good thing.. n'est pas?
Again I don't really buy that argument either why? because Qc controls its OWN immigration. It is the only province that does, you can not pass laws on one hand that say you must do this, and that and be more french and then, have the very system that is accepting these 'undesirable' immigrants.
Then the province goes around using that argument as a bat to beat more money out of the feds, see we are loosing our identity. Well the province controls it!
I have said that many times before, you can't have it both ways. You can't bitch and scream about the French culture on one hand and then re-enforce the same system you complain about but doing the opposite with the other hand.
It is just a ploy to gain political suckage and get more money.