Canada Kicks Ass
Kevin O’Leary Drops Out - topics merged

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BRAH @ Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:57 pm


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BeaverFever @ Wed Apr 26, 2017 4:23 pm

I half suspect his candidacy was just a hoax meant to make other candidate(s) seem moderate and reasonable by comparison

   



xerxes @ Wed Apr 26, 2017 4:31 pm

That, his ego is not so overpowering that he saw he had no real chance of winning and decided get out while the getting was good.

   



bootlegga @ Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:12 pm

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
bootlegga bootlegga:
Thanks for proving you're just as dumb as that Rebel YouTuber.

There is a massive difference between debt and deficit, I'd suggest you look it up! :idea:


She's speaking of the 14 candidates vying for the leadership of the Conservative party:

"One of them will hopefully come into power to dethrone Justin Trudeau besides being really annoying - a virtue signalling globalist - um, he's also running our country into a massive amount of debt. From a surplus to a projected 1.5 trillion dollar deficit"

Technically, when you're speaking of budget deficits, deficit means the total amount by which money spent is more than money received. We've all heard deficit used where it simply means " deficiency in amount or quality."

Either way you're out that money.

Debt means you owe money.

You're out that money and you have to pay it back.

The liberals are running budget deficits into a projected future where Canada is 1.5 million dollars in debt.

So to be purely technical she may have flubbed the exact definition of "budget deficit" if that's what she meant, in a 20 minute off the cuff talk, but did she wind up making an incorrect point? Because what I heard her say was government mismanagement is projected to take us to a future where we're 1.5 trillion dollars in the hole. What part of that isn't true?



Translation = neither of us understands the difference between debt and deficit.

It's an error of monumental proportions, not an "incorrect point."

It's impossible to have a $1.5 trillion deficit if the entire federal budget is $300 billion - unless government expenditures were $1.8 trillion in a single year.

The basic difference, in layman's terms, is that debt is your mortgage/car loan and a deficit is whether or not your monthly expenses exceed your take home income.

   



N_Fiddledog @ Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:40 pm

bootlegga bootlegga:

Translation = neither of us understands the difference between debt and deficit.

It's an error of monumental proportions, not an "incorrect point."

It's impossible to have a $1.5 trillion deficit if the entire federal budget is $300 billion - unless government expenditures were $1.8 trillion in a single year.

The basic difference, in layman's terms, is that debt is your mortgage/car loan and a deficit is whether or not your monthly expenses exceed your take home income.


Translation: it doesn't matter that her basic point suggesting bad governance is projected to put Canada $ 1.5 trillion in the hole is true. It doesn't even matter that the average person would have simply gotten that and moved on. What matters is you wanting to sell this tremendous gotcha you believe you have where an opinionator bafflegabbing with a fellow may have technically used the wrong definition of a word in the wrong spot in a 20 minute back and forth.

That illustrates a "deficit" of common sense if you ask me.

Deficit (noun):

3. a lack or shortage; deficiency.

   



Canadian_Mind @ Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:43 pm

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:
I don't approve of Bernier. I think he's an idiot.


I'll be honest, I haven't done a lot of research into the guy's platform, but that taste of the libertarian makes him interesting to me as an addition to the Canadian political mosaic.

I'd like to see how it works in Canada. The reintroduction of Liberty into Canada when the trend seems to be editing it out would be interesting at least.

Why do you disapprove again? Is it a policy thing or you just don't like the accent?


Policies mostly. I like the Libertarian flare on social issues, but in my mind Libertarian isn't the way to go on exonomic issues. It seems to me he's the other way around.

Lets not forget the fuckup with the NATO docs. In hindsight it wasn't a critical error, but it damaged our reputation, and he did not handle it gracefully. Mistakes happen, even at the highest level, but if you don't handle it appropriately, you lose any credibility and dignity you could have preserved.

For these reasons, I wont put him anywhere on my ballot. I hope he generates discussion within the party, but not as a leader.

Right now I am putting O'Toole as my first choice, Scheer as my second. No one else is going on the ballot.

   



N_Fiddledog @ Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:54 pm

Fair enough, but just out of curiosity, as in only because I'm curious, how did you manage to become one of the 259,010 conservatives eligible to vote?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/conserv ... -1.4085442

Your icons say NDP and Green. Can you do that? I didn't know you could do that.

   



Canadian_Mind @ Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:51 pm

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
Fair enough, but just out of curiosity, as in only because I'm curious, how did you manage to become one of the 259,010 conservatives eligible to vote?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/conserv ... -1.4085442

Your icons say NDP and Green. Can you do that? I didn't know you could do that.


I actually put all 4 icons up way back in the day. They used to cycle, but now it is just these two up always... very aggravating. It was my way of expressing that I felt every party had something to offer. They still do, but the Conservatives are the ones I choose to associate with.

As for party membership, I joined the party a year after I got out of the military, before the leadership race kicked off. Just go to the website and pay the membership. Unfortunately, it's too late to apply for a membership if you wanted to be eligible for the vote.

   



Coach85 @ Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:47 am

This was such a bush-league move by O'Leary and just confirms what most Canadians feel about politicians. He can say he's not a politician but this was a slimy political move.

Just a few hours before his announcement, he's on social media shilling for money and then backs a guy with the personality of a pet rock.

There isn't anyone at that table capable of beating Trudeau.

   



Thanos @ Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:50 am

They're an unimpressive lot at best. This is why I believe that Trudeau is looking at two more majority victories. Post-Harper there just isn't anything that stands out about the Tories anymore. Not philosophically. Not in terms of any strong personalities. Nothing much to look at at all.

   



Public_Domain @ Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:52 am

:|

   



herbie @ Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:12 am

BeaverFever BeaverFever:
I half suspect his candidacy was just a hoax meant to make other candidate(s) seem moderate and reasonable by comparison

I'd say exactly that if Kelly Leitch was the one who dropped out and OLeary stayed in!

The only reasonable and moderate candidate is Chong, and the turmoil from the fringes will ensure he doesn't even come close to winning.

   



martin14 @ Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:08 am

herbie herbie:
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
I half suspect his candidacy was just a hoax meant to make other candidate(s) seem moderate and reasonable by comparison

I'd say exactly that if Kelly Leitch was the one who dropped out and OLeary stayed in!

The only reasonable and moderate candidate is Chong, and the turmoil from the fringes will ensure he doesn't even come close to winning.



:lol: :lol:

Chong should be running for the Lieberals, and at least be honest with voters.

   



PluggyRug @ Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:06 pm

Chong ROTFL

   



ShepherdsDog @ Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:09 pm

too bad it wasn't Tommy Chong.

   



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