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Scape @ Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:24 am

Banff Banff:
I also like Civil approach mentioned here to deal with Caledonia rather than those politicians and law who will not deal with it .


Native issues in government is a hot potato. No one juristion is geared toward dealing with it and no one level of government be that federal, provincial or municipal wants the burden of responsibility so we get endless buck passing that ends up creating Caledonia's, Oka, Ipperwashes et al. It's not like the mayor of Oka woke up one morning and thought,"Gee, how can I fuck the natives out of their land and get people killed?" There was a legitimate business interest that wanted that land as a golf course, the same interest that wanted Bear mountain here in BC. While the government did sign and are thus responsible for the treaties signed Canada is no longer a colony of Britain and we are not at war with the US so the reasons for land claims have a different complexion to them. Ultimately standoffs like Caledonia will only serve to give the 1st Nations a black eye and a lesson that some battles should not be fought but I doubt that will happen before we get a few dead on either side of the barricades. The aftermath of that will be on par with the current situation in Israel and Palestine. I hope cooler heads will prevail so that goodwill can be once again created and agreements broached but from what I witnessed thus far I'm not holding my breath. I'll be dammed if I'm gonna show up for Oka II.

   



Banff @ Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:58 am

Scape Scape:
Banff Banff:
I also like Civil approach mentioned here to deal with Caledonia rather than those politicians and law who will not deal with it .


Native issues in government is a hot potato. No one juristion is geared toward dealing with it and no one level of government be that federal, provincial or municipal wants the burden of responsibility so we get endless buck passing that ends up creating Caledonia's, Oka, Ipperwashes et al. It's not like the mayor of Oka woke up one morning and thought,"Gee, how can I fuck the natives out of their land and get people killed?" There was a legitimate business interest that wanted that land as a golf course, the same interest that wanted Bear mountain here in BC. While the government did sign and are thus responsible for the treaties signed Canada is no longer a colony of Britain and we are not at war with the US so the reasons for land claims have a different complexion to them. Ultimately standoffs like Caledonia will only serve to give the 1st Nations a black eye and a lesson that some battles should not be fought but I doubt that will happen before we get a few dead on either side of the barricades. The aftermath of that will be on par with the current situation in Israel and Palestine. I hope cooler heads will prevail so that goodwill can be once again created and agreements broached but from what I witnessed thus far I'm not holding my breath. I'll be dammed if I'm gonna show up for Oka II.


Next in line will be Redwood Meadows just outside of Calgary and near Bragg Creek . i think the people who built homes there were all foolish because one day the natives are going to come down on them too .

   



Bodah @ Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:31 am

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:
Mob Takes Car From U.S. Patrol in Ontario - NY Times

Does it bother you that the US can send POLICE into Canada? Maybe the CIA is funding this whole uprising!


Maybe that was an attempt at sarcasm that failed but I doubt it, the reason they were up here is that they were studying the situation as part of a job excersise. In cooperation with Canadian officials... read that word again cooperation.

Unless you have a problem with Americans coming up here, you should lay off of the racism redneck accusations you've been hurling around.

I've read all of your points Donny, from what I can gather correct me if Im wrong, you and your people dont really give a shit about the land, You and your people just all want to be instant millionares for it.

We all want to be millionares, you and your people arent the only ones.
Life sucks huh ?

   



ShepherdsDog @ Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:06 am

Donny's not just a redneck, he's red from the top of his pointy little head to his little toes. I hear he's also a card carrying member of AIM. No, not the American Indian Movement, just his own little association - Assholes In Moccasins.

   



Donny_Brasco @ Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:54 am

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
Donny's not just a redneck, he's red from the top of his pointy little head to his little toes. I hear he's also a card carrying member of AIM. No, not the American Indian Movement, just his own little association - Assholes In Moccasins.


I resent that.

   



Tricks @ Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:58 am

LOL Shep! ROTFL

   



Blue_Nose @ Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:56 pm

Shep has his own fan website now, it appears.

   



Bodah @ Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:51 pm

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
Donny's not just a redneck, he's red from the top of his pointy little head to his little toes. I hear he's also a card carrying member of AIM. No, not the American Indian Movement, just his own little association - Assholes In Moccasins.


Thats pretty harsh 8O

   



ShepherdsDog @ Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:29 pm

Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:
Shep has his own fan website now, it appears.


"You like me... [cry] You really like me!" :P You'll notice that Donny painted all Caucasians as racists, based on my comment about him. But then again he sees Canada with a Cowboy vs Indian mentality, rather than the multi cultural entity that it really is. He and his ilk are so busy trying to get even they'll never get ahead. [laughat]

   



Donny_Brasco @ Sun Jun 11, 2006 8:08 pm

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
You'll notice that Donny painted all Caucasians as racists, based on my comment about him.


So you are admitting it is a racist comment? I never said it was...

I just thought it was a personal slam, as I know when people run out of actual argument they turn to personal attacks and slander.

   



ShepherdsDog @ Sun Jun 11, 2006 8:36 pm

You should know, you seem to be pretty good at the personal attacks. As for the racist comment, no it's a reflection on you and your racist views. You're the one who turns everything into a race issue. You're the one who refers to 'White people' thinking you're an asshole in mocassins. Has anyone else named you such? No. Nice semantricks there Donny boy.

   



Donny_Brasco @ Sun Jun 11, 2006 8:48 pm

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
You should know, you seem to be pretty good at the personal attacks. As for the racist comment, no it's a reflection on you and your racist views. You're the one who turns everything into a race issue. You're the one who refers to 'White people' thinking you're an asshole in mocassins. Has anyone else named you such? No. Nice semantricks there Donny boy.


So talking about treaty rights and land claims is racist against white people?

Sorry, didn't know you were so touchy.

If you know some history and a few actual facts on the subject you would see that my points are pretty clear and not racist at all.

   



Banff @ Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:03 pm

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
You should know, you seem to be pretty good at the personal attacks. As for the racist comment, no it's a reflection on you and your racist views. You're the one who turns everything into a race issue. You're the one who refers to 'White people' thinking you're an asshole in mocassins. Has anyone else named you such? No. Nice semantricks there Donny boy.


So talking about treaty rights and land claims is racist against white people?

Sorry, didn't know you were so touchy.

If you know some history and a few actual facts on the subject you would se that my points are pretty clear and not racist at all.


I like the signature there Donny . What do you think is it fitting? Why is there no comment section on your new site? I have to admitt at least you have a sense of humour.

   



PJB @ Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:30 pm

Donny...Is that all you know? Land claims and treaty rights? Do you live in a bubble that is isolated from everything else? The world has far bigger problems than your hand out demanding what you think you are entitled to. I am sick and tired of being told that I owe someone a livelihood because some British idiot tried to be nice and negotiate rather than wipe out. You owe your very existance to the very people that you, so obviously, hate. The British could have wiped out all the natives in Canada but they didn't.

Now I know that you are going to come back and say that we (Non-natives) owe you for our very existance but I don't buy into the "I am native so I am better and you owe me" line of bullshit!

   



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