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Mulcair dismisses western premiers' comments on his oilsands

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Newsbot @ Wed May 16, 2012 3:56 pm

Title: Mulcair dismisses western premiers' comments on his oilsands stand
Category: Political
Posted By: FieryVulpine
Date: 2012-05-16 15:46:07
Canadian

   



FieryVulpine @ Wed May 16, 2012 3:56 pm

This is what got my attention though...

$1:
Former Liberal leader Stephane Dion got into the fray Monday, revealing that he turned down a proposal from party strategists before the 2008 election to try to exploit Canadian misgivings over environmental damage linked to oilsands operations.

Is it me or did Stephane Dion show some common sense here? Pitting one part of the country against the other, as Mr. Mulcair seems to be doing right now, reeks of lazy and cynical politics.

   



Newsbot @ Wed May 16, 2012 4:03 pm

Title: Mulcair dismisses western premiers' comments on his oilsands stand
Category: Political
Posted By: FieryVulpine
Date: 2012-05-16 15:46:07
Canadian

   



Hyack @ Wed May 16, 2012 4:03 pm

You double posted this story, and of course made your comment on the one which I deleted. therefore this comment so I can merge the one with the other...

   



FieryVulpine @ Wed May 16, 2012 4:08 pm

Hyack Hyack:
You double posted this story, and of course made your comment on the one which I deleted. therefore this comment so I can merge the one with the other...

My apologies. My mouse often "double clicks" and causes me double post without realizing it until after the fact.

   



jeff744 @ Wed May 16, 2012 4:23 pm

I am at a lack of words for how much I truly despise Muclair over this, you would think that he would remember that the last time a Prime Minister punished success in the West it started a second independence movement (I believe it had about 15% support at the time in an area that used to be entirely loyal).

   



Freakinoldguy @ Wed May 16, 2012 4:54 pm

I wouldn't worry to much about Mulcairs demented self serving rants since it's pretty apparent he's playing to a specific voter who is likely a disenfranchised Quebeois or a hyper coffee drinking birkenstock wearing psuedo intellectual from the center of the universe.

By the time the next election rolls around and his divisive policies have been debunked his current voter base that he`s so intent on dragging along on his musical ride of nation wrecking will have come to their senses and returned from whence they came. :roll:

The Bloc or the Liberal Party of Canada

   



martin14 @ Wed May 16, 2012 5:05 pm

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
I wouldn't worry to much about Mulcairs demented self serving rants since it's pretty apparent he's playing to a specific voter who is likely a disenfranchised Quebeois or a hyper coffee drinking birkenstock wearing psuedo intellectual from the center of the universe.

By the time the next election rolls around and his divisive policies have been debunked his current voter base that he`s so intent on dragging along on his musical ride of nation wrecking will have come to their senses and returned from whence they came. :roll:

The Bloc or the Liberal Party of Canada



Didn't take long to happen though, did it ?

Dippers :roll:

   



PublicAnimalNo9 @ Wed May 16, 2012 9:49 pm

Funny how the oil sands didn't become a big deal until 2005 :roll:

   



ShepherdsDog @ Wed May 16, 2012 11:10 pm

if they were in Quebec, would they be an issue for him....doubtful.

   



CDN_PATRIOT @ Thu May 17, 2012 4:11 am

Ahhh Mulcair.....we hardly knew you :mrgreen: Bon voyage! [B-o]


-J.

   



OnTheIce @ Thu May 17, 2012 6:02 am

It's amazing to see the work Jack did, blown away so quickly....like a fart in the wind.

   



CDN_PATRIOT @ Thu May 17, 2012 6:16 am

OnTheIce OnTheIce:
It's amazing to see the work Jack did, blown away so quickly....like a fart in the wind.


True that. Jack was a visionary. Mulcair's thinking is stuck in a little box.

-J.

   



bootlegga @ Thu May 17, 2012 8:21 am

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
Funny how the oil sands didn't become a big deal until 2005 :roll:


I know you're taking a shot at the left with that, but it's not necessarily accurate.

There was little reason to worry about the oilsands (at least from an environmentalist perspective) because the production in the oilsands was pretty low until the early 2000s - then production ramped up and started increasing annually by a fair bit - assuming this graphic is correct (the blogger claims he made it with data from StatsCan).

http://earlywarn.blogspot.ca/2010/01/ta ... graph.html

Until Klein offered 1% royalty rates on oilsands projects (to raise to normal rates after capital costs were paid off) and oil prices increased in the late-90s, production was minimal at best.

Once he introduced that rate, companies leapt at the opportunity to build mega-projects up there because the profit margins were huge. Those projects took a while to build, and as such, production didn't ramp up until the millenium began - and with production expected to be triple that in 2025, environmentalists are worried.

That's not to say I agree with them - we need the oilsands to keep our economy running. IMHO, production in the oilsands is much better than drilling the Arctic or Antarctic for oil.

   



mentalfloss @ Thu May 17, 2012 9:28 am

Just curious, but why is the west up in arms about this?

He never stated we should halt oilsands production?

   



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