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All Canadian citizens by jus soli swear the same oath as I took. Why should this guy be so special that he doesn't have to swear the same allegiance? Perhaps it should be the same for our armed services when they swear allegiance to their queen and country. "Here's you guns and ammo boys, fight for whoever the fuck you want".

   

Because the days of empire are over. They days of monarchy are over. And absolutely, the oath for the AFs should be changed to reflect that too. Canada really is a republic now, even with the Queen still in place. She's little more than a figurehead.

An oath, promising to uphold Canada's laws ought to be plenty sufficient. That's the whole point of the oath anyway, isn't it?

At least that way we're not going to turn away people like this guy, an educated, intelligent professional, who will clearly bring benefit to our society. The oath, in its current form, is archaic.

   

No, they're not.

Maybe the British Empire is over and done but the Chinese empire is on the rise, the Islamic Caliphate (aka empire) is certainly spreading, and God only knows that the evil forces of Wal Mart and Apple are rising, as well.

In the latter case I recall reading a paper some years ago that it was only a matter of time before a powerful enough corporation leveraged itself into becoming a nation state.

The days of the old empires may be over but the days of empire are not at all over. They just don't look as familiar as they used to is all.

   

How about a strict oath to the nation of Canada? I am guessing even the Queen, God bless her heart; couldn't give a damn about an oath taken by new Canadians who enter one of it's Commonwealth countries. I would prefer a commitment to Canadian law, to assisting in the progress of our nation in all social and economic facets than in an oath to a head figure that is an ocean away.

The Queen and monarchy serves a purpose and those in the line to the throne can impact the world in a positive way and even help the British economy with tourism. Any of the functional value of the throne has long passed it's time, especially in Canada.

As was stated, this was a guy looking for attention and the fact that the media picked up on this non-story illustrates the quality of journalism or lackthereof.

We are a nation that has a democratic election process and a separate Charter of Rights and Freedoms. The oath to the Queen is made every year by thousands who probably don't even care about the oath at all but repeat it like drones so that they can get their citizenship. As much as this guy isn't presenting anything of value, at least he is showing that he takes his oaths seriously.

   

Exactly. Said person is coming here to become a Canadian citizen. Do it our way, or else. Swearing an oath to our head of state, the Queen, is an extremely small price to pay to become a citizen of the best/most free/democratic country on the planet.

Perhaps he'd like to try Palestine or Iran instead? I hear they LOVE new immigrants from his neighbourhood....

-J.

   

I agree. And, when you become a Permanent Resident, you already do that.

He already has brought 13 years of benefit to Canadian Society.
That doesn't change if, or when, he becomes a citizen.

I agree on the oath-thing.

   

What gives you the right to put up a door to keep people out ?

Either you believe in it, or you don't.



You're worse than a sinner, you're nothing but a hypocrite.

   

This argument is moot since the guy already swore his oath of allegiance to the Queen. He can recant his oath all he wants but the fact remains the Queen owns his sorry new Canadian ass and since the only way to legally renounce this oath would be to renounce his "citizenship" I'm sure this nimrod won't do squat except whine like a "Horny Little Jewish Princess, with a garlic aroma that could level Tacoma".

But in fairness, if he wants to renounce his oath why don't we renounce his citizenship for him.

   

nobody in Canada should have to swear an oath to a foreigner, and don't give me that B S about her being Canadian. Since she's been queen i believe she's been in Canada for about 2 months on all her VISITS. Monarchies are archaic. Canada is wearing big boy pants now, we don't need the UK holding our hands.Canada certainly doesn't owe the UK anything. After the Boer War, World Wars I and II the UK should have pictures of Canadians on their money not the other way. Canada should be a republic

   

The Queen of Canada, is 'Canada'. It's a pretty basic part of law. If you can't get past that detail, you won't get the rest.

   

Go for it. Put it up to a vote like the Aussies did and see what happens.

   

This is why when you sue the RCMP or CSIS you have to name the Queen as a defendant. How many in the security apparatus have lost their jobs or been stripped of their citizenship for embarrassing the Queen and destroying the reputation? How many of them spit on their oath without any consequences?


If you take an oath you bloody well better mean it, or else it is meaningless words. This guy takes his oath seriously, unlike many in Canada who would rather disgrace the Crown while pretending to defend it...I suppose this is why the British openly chastised the RCMP last year...

   

Really? I have to answer that?


Which "it"? A country or a town is not a house. Seriously how do you twist "anyone should be able to choose where to live" into "then let them live in your house"?


Wow.


Because the contents of the oath have no reasonable connection to a citizen's duties.

   

I'm no royalist but why break with tradition just to pacify the narrow minded among us.

   

You've mislabeled which side of this debate is the narrow minded side.

   

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