Canada Kicks Ass
Nunavut takes a page from Bill 101

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Confused @ Sun Apr 01, 2007 11:32 am

RUEZ RUEZ:
Confused Confused:

... Then let's pack our bags and become Americans..

Assimilation has its place, but asking Quebec to is a bad call. Jeez, they helped form this country, let's not do them the disservice of asking them to assimilate.
So It's ok to assimilate everyone into Quebec but not for Quebec to be assimilated into Canada? Ok got it.

Confused Confused:
If this law 'punishes' the minority so be it. This is about much more than that.
So you would be ok with Canada enacting laws that punish Quebec, since the Francophone is a minority in Canada? Canada should bring in a law then that punishes Quebec for its discriminatory language law.


RUEZ, you just don't get it... You don't understand Quebec. This is about preserving Quebec within a united and strong Canada.
:roll:

   



CDNBear @ Sun Apr 01, 2007 11:32 am

Confused Confused:
Punished? lol.. Draconian fascist law? lol.

This is about the survival of the majority in Quebec which are francophone. If this law 'punishes' the minority so be it. This is about much more than that.


You should take a look at how the Natives have done this, then rethink your position.

There is a mature, rational bipartisan way to conduct oneself, that addresses mutual benefits, then you have how Kebec does it.

   



CDNBear @ Sun Apr 01, 2007 11:33 am

Confused Confused:
RUEZ RUEZ:
Confused Confused:

... Then let's pack our bags and become Americans..

Assimilation has its place, but asking Quebec to is a bad call. Jeez, they helped form this country, let's not do them the disservice of asking them to assimilate.
So It's ok to assimilate everyone into Quebec but not for Quebec to be assimilated into Canada? Ok got it.

Confused Confused:
If this law 'punishes' the minority so be it. This is about much more than that.
So you would be ok with Canada enacting laws that punish Quebec, since the Francophone is a minority in Canada? Canada should bring in a law then that punishes Quebec for its discriminatory language law.


RUEZ, you just don't get it... You don't understand Quebec. This is about preserving Quebec within a united and strong Canada.
:roll:
No it isn't, bill 101 was the brain child of a racist ass.

   



RUEZ @ Sun Apr 01, 2007 11:39 am

Confused Confused:
RUEZ RUEZ:
Confused Confused:

... Then let's pack our bags and become Americans..

Assimilation has its place, but asking Quebec to is a bad call. Jeez, they helped form this country, let's not do them the disservice of asking them to assimilate.
So It's ok to assimilate everyone into Quebec but not for Quebec to be assimilated into Canada? Ok got it.

Confused Confused:
If this law 'punishes' the minority so be it. This is about much more than that.
So you would be ok with Canada enacting laws that punish Quebec, since the Francophone is a minority in Canada? Canada should bring in a law then that punishes Quebec for its discriminatory language law.


RUEZ, you just don't get it... You don't understand Quebec. This is about preserving Quebec within a united and strong Canada.
:roll:
No I get it just fine. Quebec is forcing people to use French by legislation. Rather than letting it survive or die on it's own.

   



Confused @ Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:18 pm

CDNBear CDNBear:
Confused Confused:
Punished? lol.. Draconian fascist law? lol.

This is about the survival of the majority in Quebec which are francophone. If this law 'punishes' the minority so be it. This is about much more than that.


You should take a look at how the Natives have done this, then rethink your position.

There is a mature, rational bipartisan way to conduct oneself, that addresses mutual benefits, then you have how Kebec does it.


There are many Native communities that are on the brink of cultural suicide with suicides, alcoholism, etc..
I really don't see what's so wrong with Quebec having to play hardball to preserve their way of life.

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No it isn't, bill 101 was the brain child of a racist ass.


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No I get it just fine. Quebec is forcing people to use French by legislation. Rather than letting it survive or die on it's own.


Dude, in a world of globalization, one must be tough. I admire Quebec for being strong, but of course I'm a Federalist too and I don't like the 'give me more money' attitude nor the seperatists. Even the thought of leaving it to 'survive or die' makes me question your Canadianism. :wink:

   



RUEZ @ Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:22 pm

Confused Confused:
Even the thought of leaving it to 'survive or die' makes me question your Canadianism. :wink:
That's a good way to start an argument with me. Who are you to question my patriotism?

   



Confused @ Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:27 pm

RUEZ RUEZ:
Confused Confused:
Even the thought of leaving it to 'survive or die' makes me question your Canadianism. :wink:
That's a good way to start an argument with me. Who are you to question my patriotism?


Whoever I have to be. Like it or not, Quebec was pivotal in the creation of this country and has always been important. Our country was built by the: English, French and Native peoples (of course immigrants came after but that's another story) This country isn't a 'single people'. French Canada has always been a source of conflict and progress. Without Quebec, we lose our identity.. without French we are no longer Canadian.

   



RUEZ @ Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:31 pm

Confused Confused:
RUEZ RUEZ:
Confused Confused:
Even the thought of leaving it to 'survive or die' makes me question your Canadianism. :wink:
That's a good way to start an argument with me. Who are you to question my patriotism?


Whoever I have to be. Like it or not, Quebec was pivotal in the creation of this country and has always been important. Our country was built by the: English, French and Native peoples (of course immigrants came after but that's another story) This country isn't a 'single people'. French Canada has always been a source of conflict and progress. Without Quebec, we lose our identity.. without French we are no longer Canadian.
Bullshit. I agree they were part founders. Although I don't want them to leave, a person could argue that Canada could grow stronger without the constant threat of Quebec separation, and the money being thrown at them to support their failing economy.

   



CDNBear @ Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:31 pm

Confused Confused:
I really don't see what's so wrong with Quebec having to play hardball to preserve their way of life.

So if natives use distasteful tactics to preserve their culture, it's ok then?

   



Confused @ Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:35 pm

RUEZ RUEZ:
Confused Confused:
RUEZ RUEZ:
Confused Confused:
Even the thought of leaving it to 'survive or die' makes me question your Canadianism. :wink:
That's a good way to start an argument with me. Who are you to question my patriotism?


Whoever I have to be. Like it or not, Quebec was pivotal in the creation of this country and has always been important. Our country was built by the: English, French and Native peoples (of course immigrants came after but that's another story) This country isn't a 'single people'. French Canada has always been a source of conflict and progress. Without Quebec, we lose our identity.. without French we are no longer Canadian.


Bullshit. I agree they were part founders. Although I don't want them to leave, a person could argue that Canada could grow stronger without the constant threat of Quebec separation, and the money being thrown at them to support their failing economy.


What about the 'money being thrown' at the Northern Territories. Or the 'money being thrown' at the Maritimes...? There are many things we could do to 'improve' our economy, but that does not mean it is justified or acceptable. I strongly agree that the threat of separation is unacceptable, but when will we ever get a leader who will be able to fix it? I also agree that their economy could be a lot better, the unions have to be tossed out.

   



Confused @ Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:37 pm

CDNBear CDNBear:
Confused Confused:
I really don't see what's so wrong with Quebec having to play hardball to preserve their way of life.


So if natives use distasteful tactics to preserve their culture, it's ok then?


I don't believe Bill 101 is distasteful. Depends what 'tactics' they used..

   



RUEZ @ Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:39 pm

CDNBear CDNBear:
Confused Confused:
I really don't see what's so wrong with Quebec having to play hardball to preserve their way of life.

So if natives use distasteful tactics to preserve their culture, it's ok then?
I smell a double standard here. So far he's said what's not ok for anyone else is perfectly acceptable for Quebec.

   



RUEZ @ Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:40 pm

Confused Confused:
I also agree that their economy could be a lot better, the unions have to be tossed out.
Finally we agree on something. :)

   



Confused @ Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:42 pm

RUEZ RUEZ:
CDNBear CDNBear:
Confused Confused:
I really don't see what's so wrong with Quebec having to play hardball to preserve their way of life.

So if natives use distasteful tactics to preserve their culture, it's ok then?
I smell a double standard here. So far he's said what's not ok for anyone else is perfectly acceptable for Quebec.


Nonono. If Quebec resorted to violence or extremism then of course it'd be wrong. For example, I believe the Quiet Revolution was wrong. I'm not the double-standards type of guy. 8)

   



Confused @ Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:44 pm

RUEZ RUEZ:
Confused Confused:
I also agree that their economy could be a lot better, the unions have to be tossed out.
Finally we agree on something. :)


PDT_Armataz_01_34 Believe me, I almost want to throw something at the boob-tube when I see students protesting in Quebec about their 'high tuition' costs. They have the lowest costs in the country! :x

   



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