One officer shot, another unaccounted for in Edmonton
Newsbot @ Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:27 pm
Title: One officer shot, another unaccounted for in Edmonton
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: ShepherdsDog
Date: 2015-06-08 20:25:42
Canadian
ShepherdsDog @ Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:27 pm
One shot in the back and another officer missing. Let's hope that this situation comes to a quick and fatality free ending.
Unsound @ Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:31 pm
I'll be following this closely. Good friend of mine works out of west division.
Yogi @ Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:46 pm
Watching live right now but not much new info. My condolences go out to the Officers family & Co-workers.
Fire in the house is linked. Fire is not out but is contained. Firefighters can't enter the building. Police Chief wilt.l be speaking at midnigh
shockedcanadian @ Tue Jun 09, 2015 6:24 am
This is indeed sad and disturbing. Men in uniform risking their lives and sometimes losing it, RIP Officer Woodall, you had the courage to wear your uniform and enforce the law.
From the Calgary Sun:
"Sources within the police force confirmed the man being targeted by undercover officers for some time was Norman Raddatz, thought to be associated with Freemen of the Land."
BRAH @ Tue Jun 09, 2015 6:48 am
UPDATED: Const. Daniel Woodall named as Edmonton police officer killed on duty
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/const-daniel-woodall-named-as-edmonton-police-officer-killed-on-duty-1.3105541
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stratos @ Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:38 am
DrCaleb @ Tue Jun 09, 2015 3:33 pm
This is why I'm more afraid of White Supremacists than I am Jihadists. 
RIP Const. Woodall. Const. Farone needs the company.
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Norman Raddatz had extensive police file for hate crimes
Norman Walter Raddatz, the man suspected of being responsible for the killing of Edmonton Const. Daniel Woodall, had an extensive hate crimes file related to online bullying of a family in the city.
However, Raddatz did not have a significant criminal record beyond the criminal harassment file, police Chief Rod Knecht said at a news conference Tuesday.
The hate crimes file dated back to February 2014.
Raddatz, 42, allegedly shot and killed Const. Woodall on Monday night.
Norman Walter Raddatz, the man suspected of being responsible for the killing of Edmonton Const. Daniel Woodall, had an extensive hate crimes file related to online bullying of a family in the city.
However, Raddatz did not have a significant criminal record beyond the criminal harassment file, police Chief Rod Knecht said at a news conference Tuesday.
The hate crimes file dated back to February 2014.
Raddatz, 42, allegedly shot and killed Const. Woodall on Monday night.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/ ... -1.3105901
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Const. Daniel Woodall died in fight against hate
Those who worked closely with Woodall remember a passionate, dedicated and caring police officer.
Kris Wells, the director of programs and services at the Institute for Sexual Minority Studies at the University of Alberta, worked with Woodall closely, both professionally and personally.
Within the past year, Wells filed his own hate crime complaint after being harassed online. He met with Woodall on numerous occasions, and watched as the officer combed through pages of documents collected in the case.
"He was meticulous at his job," Wells said, adding that it was Woodall's compassion that put him at ease.
"Finally, I said to Daniel, 'I just need to know if I'm going to be safe,'" Wells said, recounting a conversation with Woodall, "And he said, 'it's our job to make sure you are safe.' and I'll never forget that.
"He had a passion for protecting Edmontonians and combatting hate, and that's a legacy we will always remember."
Woodall, 35, was recruited from Great Britain, where he served with the Greater Manchester Police for seven years. He and his wife, Claire, moved to Edmonton after he accepted a job with EPS and eventually joined the hate crimes unit. Claire Woodall found work at a local radio station. The couple has two young boys.
Those who worked closely with Woodall remember a passionate, dedicated and caring police officer.
Kris Wells, the director of programs and services at the Institute for Sexual Minority Studies at the University of Alberta, worked with Woodall closely, both professionally and personally.
Within the past year, Wells filed his own hate crime complaint after being harassed online. He met with Woodall on numerous occasions, and watched as the officer combed through pages of documents collected in the case.
"He was meticulous at his job," Wells said, adding that it was Woodall's compassion that put him at ease.
"Finally, I said to Daniel, 'I just need to know if I'm going to be safe,'" Wells said, recounting a conversation with Woodall, "And he said, 'it's our job to make sure you are safe.' and I'll never forget that.
"He had a passion for protecting Edmontonians and combatting hate, and that's a legacy we will always remember."
Woodall, 35, was recruited from Great Britain, where he served with the Greater Manchester Police for seven years. He and his wife, Claire, moved to Edmonton after he accepted a job with EPS and eventually joined the hate crimes unit. Claire Woodall found work at a local radio station. The couple has two young boys.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/ ... -1.3106307
DrCaleb @ Tue Jun 09, 2015 3:52 pm
I heard a heartbreaking interview on the radio this afternoon. ![[cry]](./images/smilies/crybaby.gif "Cry Baby")
The head of the police union was saying how Const. Woodall was hit and down in front of the door, all the other officers did what they were trained to do - take cover. The reaction is to get their friend out of harms way, but because no one knew where the bullets were coming from, they couldn't. So they had to watch him slip away, while following their training.
I rail against the bad cops, but no one should forget the good cops who rarely show themselves but in times like this.
The house across the street to this one had almost 60 bullet holes in it, some went straight through to the house beyond that.
Alta_redneck @ Tue Jun 09, 2015 6:23 pm
Iverson pissed me off when he tried to gain political points by blaming the Harper government for getting rid of the gun registery. 
andyt @ Tue Jun 09, 2015 6:28 pm
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
I rail against the bad cops, but no one should forget the good cops who rarely show themselves but in times like this.
People seem to feel the need to justify themselves about this. Railing against bad cops is actually honoring the majority of good ones- you're saying the bad ones stand out. Getting rid of bad cops makes the good cops' job a lot easier. Lots of decent cops out there and it shows their strength of character that the are with all the crap that comes their way. As with teachers, we should demand a lot from cops, and honor them and pay them well in return.
2Cdo @ Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:03 am
andyt andyt:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
I rail against the bad cops, but no one should forget the good cops who rarely show themselves but in times like this.
People seem to feel the need to justify themselves about this. Railing against bad cops is actually honoring the majority of good ones- you're saying the bad ones stand out. Getting rid of bad cops makes the good cops' job a lot easier. Lots of decent cops out there and it shows their strength of character that the are with all the crap that comes their way. As with teachers, we should demand a lot from cops, and honor them and pay them well in return.
Who are you and what have you done with andy?
DrCaleb @ Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:30 am
2Cdo 2Cdo:
andyt andyt:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
I rail against the bad cops, but no one should forget the good cops who rarely show themselves but in times like this.
People seem to feel the need to justify themselves about this. Railing against bad cops is actually honoring the majority of good ones- you're saying the bad ones stand out. Getting rid of bad cops makes the good cops' job a lot easier. Lots of decent cops out there and it shows their strength of character that the are with all the crap that comes their way. As with teachers, we should demand a lot from cops, and honor them and pay them well in return.
Who are you and what have you done with andy?
He spelt 'honour' wrong, so I am suspect.
But I do agree with him as well. Pointing out the bad cops helps the good ones that are left do their jobs.
bootlegga @ Wed Jun 10, 2015 9:58 pm
Alta_redneck Alta_redneck:
Iverson pissed me off when he tried to gain political points by blaming the Harper government for getting rid of the gun registery.
If you ask me, it was a fair comment.
The EPS knew he had an expired firearm certificate, but not what he may have owned. Perhaps if they had known he had one or more high-powered weapons, they might have used the Tactical Team instead of plainclothes officers to take down Raddatz.
According to one of the news reports I saw (CTV IIRC) one of Raddatz's neighbours told the reporter that Cst. Woodall himself knocked on doors prior to the attempt to ask if anyone knew whether or not Raddatz was a hunter and/or owned firearms.
Yogi @ Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:54 pm
Let's look at this tradgedy from a different angle. Why is Const. Woodall being refered to as a 'hero'? The man was doing the job he was hired to do. He had specific training & safety gear. He also had another officer with him. No way they could have forseen the outcome. Had they really been concerned they had at their disposal the even better trained & equipped swat team.
Keeping that in mind then, why is not Matyam Ashtiani who was killed while working at the gasbar in Calgary not being refered to as a hero? She certainly didn't have the training that law enforcement people get and she certainly wasn't issued protective gear. And like our officers she had a police force at her disposal if she had thought it warranted. She too is a highly educated immigrant to Canada. She too leaves behind a spouse & young son.
http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/charges-pendi ... -1.2415083
Bottom line is that both of these incidents are tradgedies. Those injured and killed were doing their jobs. Why, in public opinion are law emforcement people killed or injured on the job 'heroes' while everyone else is just thought of and referred to as an unfortunate statistic?
The designation of 'hero' is greatly over-used. IMO a hero is someone who runs into a burning building putting their own life at risk to save another, or someone who jumps into a river to save another person.