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EyeBrock @ Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:43 am

This is stupid. The OPP get more idiotic everyday.

I predict a 'not guilty' finding.

   



gonavy47 @ Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:16 am

If it's a company vehicle, I could see that. I've had to work a shift in a vehicle that had been smoked in by the guy before, and it's pretty gross, as well as unhealthy. If it's his own truck, then the cops stepped over the line on this one.

   



Zipperfish @ Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:21 am

Bring on the mommy state.

   



KorbenDeck @ Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:22 am

EyeBrock EyeBrock:
This is stupid. The OPP get more idiotic everyday.

I predict a 'not guilty' finding.


The OPP doesn't make the laws, remember that. It is not the OPPs job to make the laws only enforce them. Which why I laugh when people complain about police cracking down on traffic violations saying "Don't they have better things to do?" Enforcing traffic laws are part of the OPP's job.

   



gonavy47 @ Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:26 am

KorbenDeck KorbenDeck:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
This is stupid. The OPP get more idiotic everyday.

I predict a 'not guilty' finding.


The OPP doesn't make the laws, remember that. It is not the OPPs job to make the laws only enforce them. Which why I laugh when people complain about police cracking down on traffic violations saying "Don't they have better things to do?" Enforcing traffic laws are part of the OPP's job.

I'll believe that when they start ticketing loud motorcycles. I was told by a cop that "there's just too many of them". To which I replied, It's a good thing that you aren't a homicide detective in Detroit.

   



Richard @ Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:29 am

It always feels like someone is watching me...no shit. More and more you see peoples abilities to run their own lives whether good or bad taken away from them. So much for free will. There are less avenues for people to relieve the stress in there lives. It is no wonder to me why people "pop" and show up at work with a weapon.

   



Richard @ Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:31 am

KorbenDeck KorbenDeck:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
This is stupid. The OPP get more idiotic everyday.

I predict a 'not guilty' finding.


The OPP doesn't make the laws, remember that. It is not the OPPs job to make the laws only enforce them. Which why I laugh when people complain about police cracking down on traffic violations saying "Don't they have better things to do?" Enforcing traffic laws are part of the OPP's job.


The biggest reason there is quota's. Laws are made for a cash grab and the federal and provincial monetary police enforce them.

   



KorbenDeck @ Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:38 am

Richard Richard:
KorbenDeck KorbenDeck:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
This is stupid. The OPP get more idiotic everyday.

I predict a 'not guilty' finding.


The OPP doesn't make the laws, remember that. It is not the OPPs job to make the laws only enforce them. Which why I laugh when people complain about police cracking down on traffic violations saying "Don't they have better things to do?" Enforcing traffic laws are part of the OPP's job.


The biggest reason there is quota's. Laws are made for a cash grab and the federal and provincial monetary police enforce them.


So no drinking and driving laws are cash grabs?

   



Richard @ Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:58 am

The OPP doesn't make the laws, remember that. It is not the OPPs job to make the laws only enforce them. Which why I laugh when people complain about police cracking down on traffic violations saying "Don't they have better things to do?" Enforcing traffic laws are part of the OPP's job.[/quote]

The biggest reason there is quota's. Laws are made for a cash grab and the federal and provincial monetary police enforce them.[/quote]

So no drinking and driving laws are cash grabs?[/quote]

ROFL I can't believe you went there. I am quite sure you know what I was referring too.

   



KorbenDeck @ Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:21 pm

Richard Richard:
The OPP doesn't make the laws, remember that. It is not the OPPs job to make the laws only enforce them. Which why I laugh when people complain about police cracking down on traffic violations saying "Don't they have better things to do?" Enforcing traffic laws are part of the OPP's job.


The biggest reason there is quota's. Laws are made for a cash grab and the federal and provincial monetary police enforce them.[/quote]

So no drinking and driving laws are cash grabs?[/quote]

ROFL I can't believe you went there. I am quite sure you know what I was referring too.[/quote]
XD

Are there any quota's on how many fines they must hand out a year for smoking? Many people call quota's cash grabs when it is done by the police but when any other employer sets a quota on its employees it's not. So I do not see how it can be considered a cash grab. I still haven't seen any document about police quotas. Plus I am certain that if there are any police quotas they are not for cash grabs but for the same reason many other employers have quotas: to prevent their employees from just sitting around doing nothing.

   



Akhenaten @ Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:28 pm

Lemmy Lemmy:
raydan raydan:
Smoking in my workplace isn't a criminal offense? :wink:


Not yet, but I'm sure Uncle Stevie's considering it.


The Article The Article:
The Smoke-Free Ontario Act states that “no person shall smoke tobacco or hold lighted tobacco in any enclosed public place or enclosed workplace.”



Excuse me but wasn't it the governing Liberal party that inacted this law? What does "Uncle Stevie" have to do with it?


Just sayin'.

   



gigs @ Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:15 pm

Akhenaten Akhenaten:
Lemmy Lemmy:
raydan raydan:
Smoking in my workplace isn't a criminal offense? :wink:


Not yet, but I'm sure Uncle Stevie's considering it.


The Article The Article:
The Smoke-Free Ontario Act states that “no person shall smoke tobacco or hold lighted tobacco in any enclosed public place or enclosed workplace.”



Excuse me but wasn't it the governing Liberal party that inacted this law? What does "Uncle Stevie" have to do with it?


Just sayin'.


Good question, wasn't it the nice corrupt government of McGuinty that enacted it?
Funny how all these current stories of corruption by Liberal Ontario politicians never even get a mention on this site.

   



Akhenaten @ Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:21 pm

gigs gigs:
Akhenaten Akhenaten:

Excuse me but wasn't it the governing Liberal party that inacted this law? What does "Uncle Stevie" have to do with it?


Just sayin'.


Good question, wasn't it the nice corrupt government of McGuinty that enacted it?
Funny how all these current stories of corruption by Liberal Ontario politicians never even get a mention on this site.


Well I don't want to get into a big fight about it but yeah it does seem to be the way of things that if a liberal government inacts a law (which is what governments do), and laws by their nature can almost always be argued as counter to 'freedom' or 'rights'; it does seem to be a bias way of looking at things when anything a Conservative government touches is almost immediately equated with Hitler, while any law inacted by a Liberal party is either considered good, innoculate or simply bad.

   



leewgrant @ Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:27 pm

I went through this federally 20 years ago - "Non-Smokers Health Act". Are people working by themselves in isolated locations allowed to smoke? Technically no. I was on the head end of a locomotive once and the crew were smoking - blowing the smoke out of the window. If it was okay with them I sure wasn't going to complain.

   



EyeBrock @ Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:19 pm

KorbenDeck KorbenDeck:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
This is stupid. The OPP get more idiotic everyday.

I predict a 'not guilty' finding.


The OPP doesn't make the laws, remember that. It is not the OPPs job to make the laws only enforce them. Which why I laugh when people complain about police cracking down on traffic violations saying "Don't they have better things to do?" Enforcing traffic laws are part of the OPP's job.



Hey, this is a workplace smoking law under the Health and Safety Act enforced by a cop on the road.

This BS and becoming very typical of the OPP.

   



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