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Newsbot @ Tue Aug 16, 2016 2:32 pm

Title: Police chiefs want new law that would compel people to reveal passwords
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: shockedcanadian
Date: 2016-08-16 13:05:49
Canadian

   



uwish @ Tue Aug 16, 2016 2:32 pm

anything the police 'want' should be almost immediately ignored. The more difficult it is for them means there is less of a chance of abuse.

   



BartSimpson @ Tue Aug 16, 2016 2:47 pm

This is police state behavior and the answer to it should be FUCK NO!!!

   



peck420 @ Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:11 pm

They can have all of my passwords.

Right after I have been judged by my peers. (Found guilty in a court of law)

Until that time, they can fly a kite.

   



BeaverFever @ Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:23 pm

I'm certain ai read a SCOC decision that already addressed this and said police need search warrant to look through a locked device, but an officer can search an unlocked device during a routine stop with the same standard of cause required to search your pockets.

   



shockedcanadian @ Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:25 pm

We need to have Bob Paulson and Vince Hawkes have a sit down with Rand Paul who can discuss with them such foreign concepts to him as "civil liberties", "rule of law", "due process". Not that they would understand all of the concepts that would be discussed.

It sounds as if these police chiefs want to start their own country, sort of like the FreeMans movement in Western Canada. How about some of these "first to work undercover, last to join the military" do just that. Sign up for the Canadian armed forces, go overseas and get a first hand understanding of what our finest are fighting to defend. These soldiers sure as hell aren't fighting for the big payday our military pays, and I know they aren't fighting for the RCMP or any of their subordinate agencies to have fascist powers.

Oh, and maybe when you employ agents who are actively trying to generate hatred and radical opinions of Americans at American corporations, you can charge them with a hate crime, or simply give him a pink slip.

God Bless America. Please don't become like Canada. Hard working, ambitious, liberty lovers of freedom need a place to escape to.

   



shockedcanadian @ Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:25 pm

peck420 peck420:
They can have all of my passwords.

Right after I have been judged by my peers. (Found guilty in a court of law)

Until that time, they can fly a kite.


You will be judged by more than your peer, you will be judged by that of a higher caste, the arresting officer.

   



shockedcanadian @ Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:28 pm

BeaverFever BeaverFever:
I'm certain ai read a SCOC decision that already addressed this and said police need search warrant to look through a locked device, but an officer can search an unlocked device during a routine stop with the same standard of cause required to search your pockets.


Pray tell, what would any officer reasonably expect to find on your cellphone or ipad that would be of some sort of interest? Do they want to see the last 3 months of emails and texts you have sent? Are they interested in any home videos you may have made with your wife?

I hope MOST men and women in uniform; a different breed from the covert variety of officers and CI's which have turned Canada into a quasi East German state, have at least a shred of decency and respect for certain basic laws to realize they don't need draconian powers to maintain law and order.

   



BartSimpson @ Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:39 pm

BeaverFever BeaverFever:
I'm certain ai read a SCOC decision that already addressed this and said police need search warrant to look through a locked device, but an officer can search an unlocked device during a routine stop with the same standard of cause required to search your pockets.


Why do we as societies put up with this shit? It doesn't make us any safer and it doesn't make us feel like our government represents our interests.

   



peck420 @ Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:46 pm

shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:
You will be judged by more than your peer, you will be judged by that of a higher caste, the arresting officer.

I am more than willing to sit in jail until I see a court.

Like I said, they can have my passwords, right after I have been found guilty of something in a court.

   



rickc @ Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:03 pm

peck420 peck420:
shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:
You will be judged by more than your peer, you will be judged by that of a higher caste, the arresting officer.

I am more than willing to sit in jail until I see a court.

Like I said, they can have my passwords, right after I have been found guilty of something in a court.

Why would you give them even then? Lets say you get convicted of jaywalking. Why does that give the police the right to go on a fishing expedition into your private emails, texts. phone calls, etc.?

   



shockedcanadian @ Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:24 pm

rickc rickc:
peck420 peck420:
shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:
You will be judged by more than your peer, you will be judged by that of a higher caste, the arresting officer.

I am more than willing to sit in jail until I see a court.

Like I said, they can have my passwords, right after I have been found guilty of something in a court.

Why would you give them even then? Lets say you get convicted of jaywalking. Why does that give the police the right to go on a fishing expedition into your private emails, texts. phone calls, etc.?


Because it's the Canadian way. Just as certain police agencies stab America in the back while they smile to your face.

It's the Canadian way.

   



BRAH @ Tue Aug 16, 2016 6:01 pm

When you cross the Canadian US border you're asked for access to electronic devices so what's the difference?

   



andyt @ Tue Aug 16, 2016 6:16 pm

The difference is that you have no rights crossing the border, but you do in your own country.

Since the cops say they would do with with a judge's approval, it seems no different to me than getting a search warrant. I have no problem with it in that case.

   



rickc @ Tue Aug 16, 2016 6:31 pm

BRAH BRAH:
When you cross the Canadian US border you're asked for access to electronic devices so what's the difference?

There is a ton of difference. When you cross the border you can be ordered to submit to warrantless body cavity searches. Should your local police have that power as well?

   



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