Police Tasered men up to 24 times
EyeBrock @ Sun May 31, 2009 5:03 am
Bruce_the_vii Bruce_the_vii:
I’ve had a run in with police for some time now. Back in the 1980s I lost a lot of bad computer programming jobs and wound up on UIC several times. So I was an eminently employable programmer that was one of the worst users of UIC. The people in my neighbourhood began to pay attention to me, as at that time the federal fiscal deficit was troubling people with what was wrong and I was noticeable. The neighbour in the apartment directly overhead mine began to stalk me, to pay attention to every little thing I did. The police in the neighbourhood would have known about this but did not arrest her. This went on for years and I became agitated and wound up under psychiatric care. The psychiatrists at the Clarke Institure opinion was I was being stalked by this neighbour as a political protest and was police business. Eventually interest in me wore out and the stalking neighbour moved out.
Then in July 2002 a wave of concern about the lack of good jobs spread through Toronto and as I had become a “job activist” in the intervening years and had an opinion on these matters a new neighbour in the over head apartment began to stalk me again, as a copy cat crime. It had, or has, the attention of the whole neighbourhood, is a political protest and the local constables are colluding.
I have a 215 page affidavit written up on the event accusing the local police of politicalization. It took me about a man year to write the 215 pages. The story sounds like a fiction or a delusion even but in fact it’s truth is stranger than fiction. If it goes public it’ll be trouble for the government. In the mean time unless the police and government apologize to me first I won’t be able to sue because of the huge cost of suing city hall.
The constables on the street think “so what” although being stalked has disrupted my life. That’s the way it is with them.
Then in July 2002 a wave of concern about the lack of good jobs spread through Toronto and as I had become a “job activist” in the intervening years and had an opinion on these matters a new neighbour in the over head apartment began to stalk me again, as a copy cat crime. It had, or has, the attention of the whole neighbourhood, is a political protest and the local constables are colluding.
I have a 215 page affidavit written up on the event accusing the local police of politicalization. It took me about a man year to write the 215 pages. The story sounds like a fiction or a delusion even but in fact it’s truth is stranger than fiction. If it goes public it’ll be trouble for the government. In the mean time unless the police and government apologize to me first I won’t be able to sue because of the huge cost of suing city hall.
The constables on the street think “so what” although being stalked has disrupted my life. That’s the way it is with them.
215 pages? Things that make you go 'MMMMMM'.....
EyeBrock @ Sun May 31, 2009 5:04 am
Thanos Thanos:
You can't get rid of the police unless you have a society where the rule of law is universally respected. Our society over the last fifty years has done the exact opposite and created a climate where obeying the law is something optional dependent on your own immediate and selfish desires. Get rid of the respect for authority and the respect for each other, as our society has clearly done in recent decades, and you create a chaotic situation where more policing, not less, becomes vitally necessary just to hold the line against anarchy.
Until the magic moment arrives where individuality means the creation of a better and more responsible person, instead of a more selfish, hedonistic, or criminal one, then an increase in policing is the only option available to keep what's left of the good parts of society from falling prey to the criminal and the psychopathic. Our world is full of people, for example, who think that even something as small as obeying the speed limit in a playground zone full of little kids is too much to ask from them and that no one else's right to safety should ever get in the way of their manic me-first free-for-all. What the hell exactly, aside from punishment that sometimes has to be very harsh, are you ever going to be able to do to get through to idiots with attitudes like that?
Until the magic moment arrives where individuality means the creation of a better and more responsible person, instead of a more selfish, hedonistic, or criminal one, then an increase in policing is the only option available to keep what's left of the good parts of society from falling prey to the criminal and the psychopathic. Our world is full of people, for example, who think that even something as small as obeying the speed limit in a playground zone full of little kids is too much to ask from them and that no one else's right to safety should ever get in the way of their manic me-first free-for-all. What the hell exactly, aside from punishment that sometimes has to be very harsh, are you ever going to be able to do to get through to idiots with attitudes like that?
Perfectly put.
Bruce_the_vii @ Sun May 31, 2009 5:16 am
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
Bruce_the_vii Bruce_the_vii:
I’ve had a run in with police for some time now. Back in the 1980s I lost a lot of bad computer programming jobs and wound up on UIC several times. So I was an eminently employable programmer that was one of the worst users of UIC. The people in my neighbourhood began to pay attention to me, as at that time the federal fiscal deficit was troubling people with what was wrong and I was noticeable. The neighbour in the apartment directly overhead mine began to stalk me, to pay attention to every little thing I did. The police in the neighbourhood would have known about this but did not arrest her. This went on for years and I became agitated and wound up under psychiatric care. The psychiatrists at the Clarke Institure opinion was I was being stalked by this neighbour as a political protest and was police business. Eventually interest in me wore out and the stalking neighbour moved out.
Then in July 2002 a wave of concern about the lack of good jobs spread through Toronto and as I had become a “job activist” in the intervening years and had an opinion on these matters a new neighbour in the over head apartment began to stalk me again, as a copy cat crime. It had, or has, the attention of the whole neighbourhood, is a political protest and the local constables are colluding.
I have a 215 page affidavit written up on the event accusing the local police of politicalization. It took me about a man year to write the 215 pages. The story sounds like a fiction or a delusion even but in fact it’s truth is stranger than fiction. If it goes public it’ll be trouble for the government. In the mean time unless the police and government apologize to me first I won’t be able to sue because of the huge cost of suing city hall.
The constables on the street think “so what” although being stalked has disrupted my life. That’s the way it is with them.
Then in July 2002 a wave of concern about the lack of good jobs spread through Toronto and as I had become a “job activist” in the intervening years and had an opinion on these matters a new neighbour in the over head apartment began to stalk me again, as a copy cat crime. It had, or has, the attention of the whole neighbourhood, is a political protest and the local constables are colluding.
I have a 215 page affidavit written up on the event accusing the local police of politicalization. It took me about a man year to write the 215 pages. The story sounds like a fiction or a delusion even but in fact it’s truth is stranger than fiction. If it goes public it’ll be trouble for the government. In the mean time unless the police and government apologize to me first I won’t be able to sue because of the huge cost of suing city hall.
The constables on the street think “so what” although being stalked has disrupted my life. That’s the way it is with them.
215 pages? Things that make you go 'MMMMMM'.....
The politicalization of the police in Canada is a stretch so it'd take extensive explanation. Any legal case would go on forever, unless they mea culpa and appolgise to the public first off.
EyeBrock @ Sun May 31, 2009 6:19 am
With two p's or one?
Bruce_the_vii @ Sun May 31, 2009 6:58 am
Actually there are quite a lot of constables complict in this case of stalking as a political protest. They think it's no big deal, too. Then pop goes the weasel. It's very interesting that people in general have to be told what is important, even professionals. At least Eyebrock posted a response.
QBall @ Sun May 31, 2009 3:36 pm
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
24 times? Come on, the battery would have run out. Sounds like a right load of old crap.
Maybe the cop loaded a new battery after 5 times. "Stay there a sec while I run and get a new battery will ya bud. It's sitting on the charger in my cruiser."
Seriously though, I think permanent heart damage would have occurred after, say, a dozen times. I have no proof besides common sense, but even doctors will give up using a defibrilator (sp?) after 4 or 5 times on a patient whose heart has stopped. What the hell would 2 dozen shocks do?
EyeBrock @ Sun May 31, 2009 3:40 pm
QBall QBall:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
24 times? Come on, the battery would have run out. Sounds like a right load of old crap.
Maybe the cop loaded a new battery after 5 times. "Stay there a sec while I run and get a new battery will ya bud. It's sitting on the charger in my cruiser."
Seriously though, I think permanent heart damage would have occurred after, say, a dozen times. I have no proof besides common sense, but even doctors will give up using a defibrilator (sp?) after 4 or 5 times on a patient whose heart has stopped. What the hell would 2 dozen shocks do?
I think there maybe a few fibs told by these guys.
Schnek @ Sun May 31, 2009 3:48 pm
$1:
People don't like to be told what to do, regardless of the fact it in your best interest.
I'm sorry, only I, a rational, logical person, can decide what's in my best interest. Cops are just as human as us and make the same mistakes we do, more cops in my hometown drink and drive more often than they catch drunk drivers, and that's a town of 46 000. I do believe these guys to an extent, wrong place, wrong time, 24, sure it's an exaggeration, but look at their faces. By the time the cops had come in and had them restrained would have been 4-5 seconds, there is absolutely no reason for their faces too look like that, and the fact that if they were just being woken up, they did not pose an immediate threat and I highly doubt they would have had the ability to 'obstruct'. Being charged and found guilty with circumstantial evidence contradicts the 'justice' for the cops, on a charge that seems bogus. 'Justice for all' my ass
llama66 @ Sun May 31, 2009 4:29 pm
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
I think there maybe a few fibs told by these guys.
no way, these poor guys were just having a sleep over and the cops just came in and tasered the hell out of them for no reason. clearly its the cops fault. they just kick in doors loking for drugs and attack people.
(for so who may not guess, this post was pure sarcasm.)
these bozos did something to force the cop to use his taser, regardless of what some may say/think.
EyeBrock @ Sun May 31, 2009 4:31 pm
Maybe in Toronto they do!
Lemmy @ Sun May 31, 2009 5:44 pm
I don't think it'll be too long in the future that we conclude that police shouldn't be armed with tasers.
Pseudonym @ Sun May 31, 2009 6:37 pm
It's interesting to think about what might be the next step in nonlethal deterrence. I've heard some interesting things about heat guns, but they seem to be impractical thus far.
Lemmy @ Sun May 31, 2009 6:49 pm
I don't like cops having ANY nonlethal weapons. I think the only time a cop should use a weapon on someone is if it's a serious enough situation to warrant deadly force. That pretty much means the bad-guy better have a gun or a knife & and hostage. Otherwise, just form a circle and wait for more cops or let the guy go and get him later.
Brenda @ Sun May 31, 2009 6:52 pm
Live in Utopia much?
Lemmy @ Sun May 31, 2009 6:59 pm
I like Todd Rundgren.