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Goober_McGee @ Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:42 pm

Thanos Thanos:
You're lucky if you got that much. All I can remember is a brief overview of WW1 that didn't even focus on Canada, a session of learning how evil Canada was for the Japanese internments, and a whack of nonsense about the Bushmen of the Kalahari. From what I can tell, in the Calgary area anyway, you're looking at 3rd/4th year university courses to get anything in depth about either World War.

This was all back in 1980 thru 1985. As such I don't know if it's improved at all. Considering that fifteen years of Don Getty and Ralph Klein managed to make Alberta significantly dumber I'd be more likely to bet that it's gotten worse

I graduated from the Alberta "education" system in 2006. I knew nothing of Canada except Vimy Ridge, even then only that the Canadian Corps won. I remember one time in the eighth grade my social studies teacher stopped teaching Canadian history to talk about Brazil. Everything I know about Canadian history I've had to learn on my own and through university courses. The education system in this province, not just the Canadian historical part needs a massive overhaul. My brother is in the third grade and so far he's learned about Acadia and some Inuit culture and history which is more than I got when I was his age. At least that's a start.

   



snookums @ Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:52 pm

Kerozine Kerozine:
snookums snookums:
You're pointing the obvious Bodah :wink:

I'm from Quebec, went through the Quebec's education system and still can't believe the crap I 'learned' during those years.

I can't agree more with Desmond's assessment

What part of the curriculum was 'crap', if I may ask? :|


I don't have a problem answering that. :D I was in the education system back in mid-1990s - it might have changed (although I really doubt it). This is some of what I learned back in 1994-5

New France = golden age of Canada
First Nations = who?
Battle of Ste-Foy - never happened
After 1763 - French Canadians were oppressed and didn't have any rights
1837-8 - only Lower Canada had rebellions
World War 1 and 2 for Quebec = conscription
Lionel Groulx = best historian to ever walk the earth
FLQ = Trudeau's ego getting out of hand
Lévesque = martyr for FC's cause.
Western Canada = what is that?


I could add to the list, but I think it sums it up. I hope that it has evolved since 1995 (I really really do), but I would be more inclined to agree with Desmond Morton..

   



Kerozine @ Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:53 pm

I went through it 10 years after you, before the [educational system] reform, and this is what I recall:

New France = initially to exploit resources, policy changed to development (of note: they paid people for having babies :lol: )
First Nations = trade relationship, allied against the Brits
Ste-Foy = don't recall (why does it matter? French still conquered in the end)
1763, Start of British rule = special rights/freedoms accorded, 13 colonies not happy with this (i.e. religious and political rights being accorded), American revolution - failed attempt at Montreal, Durham (sp?) proposals to assimilate the Frenchies
WW1 = Conscription, regarded as the Empire's/Brits' war in the eyes of Frenchies (Anglos can go kill themselves :lol: )
WW2 = don't recall
Lionel Groulx = don't recall
FLQ = kidnappings & bombings (didn't really specify against Anglos)
Western Canada = Metis, martyred Metis guy, Ukrainians, Germans, cheap land, indigenous natives pushed further and further, railroad, BC joins Confederation

IMHO, I don't think there's really anything wrong with it currently.. biased teachers might be a problem though. :lol:

   



Lemmy @ Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:59 pm

the kids are more a problem than the teachers. The majority don't care about anything but getting drunk and laid. And there's nothing wrong with that. That's what being a teenager's all about.

   



ShepherdsDog @ Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:08 pm

yeah, because if they're failures, they know the gov't will take care of them.

   



kenmore @ Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:23 am

snookums snookums:
Kerozine Kerozine:
snookums snookums:
You're pointing the obvious Bodah :wink:

I'm from Quebec, went through the Quebec's education system and still can't believe the crap I 'learned' during those years.

I can't agree more with Desmond's assessment

What part of the curriculum was 'crap', if I may ask? :|


I don't have a problem answering that. :D I was in the education system back in mid-1990s - it might have changed (although I really doubt it). This is some of what I learned back in 1994-5

New France = golden age of Canada
First Nations = who?
Battle of Ste-Foy - never happened
After 1763 - French Canadians were oppressed and didn't have any rights
1837-8 - only Lower Canada had rebellions
World War 1 and 2 for Quebec = conscription
Lionel Groulx = best historian to ever walk the earth
FLQ = Trudeau's ego getting out of hand
Lévesque = martyr for FC's cause.
Western Canada = what is that?


I could add to the list, but I think it sums it up. I hope that it has evolved since 1995 (I really really do), but I would be more inclined to agree with Desmond Morton..

Oh ya ... what school and district did you attend?

   



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