Rachael Ray ad pulled after complaints over her scarf
sandorski @ Thu May 29, 2008 11:00 pm
commanderkai commanderkai:
sandorski sandorski:
The Israeli Army sells the same scarves. It's Anti-Israel to be offended!!
They do? Where?
I kind of overstated it, but here. Not the same design, but called the same.
xerxes @ Fri May 30, 2008 10:25 am
The worst part is that Dunkin Donuts actually took the complaint seriously and pulled the ad.
Their response should have been:
Dear Ms. Malkin
Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.
Streaker @ Fri May 30, 2008 10:53 am
Hear! Hear!
Malkin is a madwoman.
xerxes @ Fri May 30, 2008 11:29 am
That kind of scarf, for the record, is also called a Shemagh which is quite popular with soldiers in desert areas.
See the below:
http://www.rangerjoes.com/scarfshemagh-british-sas-p-1623.html
And if black and white scarves are really subversive terrorist messages of support, the ship Michelle McCain off to Guantanamo
Scape @ Fri May 30, 2008 11:56 am
xerxes xerxes:
The worst part is that Dunkin Donuts actually took the complaint seriously and pulled the ad.
Their response should have been:
Dear Ms. Malkin
Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.
Their response should have been:
Dear Ms. Malkin
Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.
I think they did the right thing and got great pr. The big loser is Malkin here.
Deiwos @ Fri May 30, 2008 12:03 pm
Scape Scape:
xerxes xerxes:
The worst part is that Dunkin Donuts actually took the complaint seriously and pulled the ad.
Their response should have been:
Dear Ms. Malkin
Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.
Their response should have been:
Dear Ms. Malkin
Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.
I think they did the right thing and got great pr. The big loser is Malkin here.
Yea, from a PR standpoint, the company really made the best decision. I'm just really saddened that someone got themselves all tied up in a knot like that over it, and effectively forced them to pull the ad.
xerxes @ Fri May 30, 2008 12:05 pm
I disagree Scape. All this proves is that anyone can make a Mt. Everest out of a molehill and get results. All this will do is prove to Malkin and her ilk that their derangement is normal and that they were right and that it will work in the future as well.
hurley_108 @ Fri May 30, 2008 12:11 pm
xerxes xerxes:
I disagree Scape. All this proves is that anyone can make a Mt. Everest out of a molehill and get results. All this will do is prove to Malkin and her ilk that their derangement is normal and that they were right and that it will work in the future as well.
Only if the general public is stupid enough to buy Malkin's argument. They complied quickly, deflating any further attacks, and handed her an empty victory.
commanderkai @ Fri May 30, 2008 12:31 pm
xerxes xerxes:
That kind of scarf, for the record, is also called a Shemagh which is quite popular with soldiers in desert areas.
See the below:
http://www.rangerjoes.com/scarfshemagh-british-sas-p-1623.html
And if black and white scarves are really subversive terrorist messages of support, the ship Michelle McCain off to Guantanamo
See the below:
http://www.rangerjoes.com/scarfshemagh-british-sas-p-1623.html
And if black and white scarves are really subversive terrorist messages of support, the ship Michelle McCain off to Guantanamo
Michelle McCain, creative
Please, I already pointed out that the New York Times calls it what Malkin called the scarf, and that design, with those colors, have been called by hard left organizations as something to show solidarity with the Palestinian "resistance movement".
She won in this, since the attack on the ad is much more commonly put on Rachel Ray and NOT, once again, Dunkin Donuts. Malkin was the victor because Dunkin Donuts pulled out quickly, knowing the pressures they would face in the rather substantial Jewish/Israeli lobby in the US, and among people who would not want symbols of Palestinian terrorism as some fashion statement
I don't see why you guys are jumping on the grenades here, you wouldn't do it if Ray was wearing a KKK hood.
Edit: This is a beautiful article on how this "black and white scarf" has caused trouble for another woman by somebody with political views...but its not a right winger...
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2008/05/ ... 79497.html
$1:
But Ms Tieger said she had "no idea about the politics" when she bought the scarf at the Tree Of Life store.
"I thought it was a nice scarf, a cowboy scarf. I thought: 'It's black and white, no-one will say anything to me because that's all we can wear [with our work uniform]'.
"A Palestinian customer came up and asked me if I'm wearing this scarf as a fashion statement or for political reasons.
"I had no idea what he was talking about because I don't follow politics at all. I just laughed it off.
"Two days later he called and complained about it."
"I thought it was a nice scarf, a cowboy scarf. I thought: 'It's black and white, no-one will say anything to me because that's all we can wear [with our work uniform]'.
"A Palestinian customer came up and asked me if I'm wearing this scarf as a fashion statement or for political reasons.
"I had no idea what he was talking about because I don't follow politics at all. I just laughed it off.
"Two days later he called and complained about it."
C.M. Burns @ Fri May 30, 2008 1:58 pm
commanderkai commanderkai:
You can call it a scarf, but its a keffiyah, which is a symbol for terrorism. If I only wear the hood of a Klansman, but not the rest of the outfit, its still symbolic of the KKK.
The kaffiyeh is the equivalent of the KKK hood?
Here's what the expert in your article had to say about it:
$1:
According to Professor Swedenburg and others who have studied the history of the kaffiyeh, it was originally the headwear of Palestinian peasants, worn around the head and fastened in place by a band called an agal. In the insurrection against the British occupation from 1936 to 1939, the kaffiyeh became a symbol of Palestinian nationalism as well as an expression of class struggle. The insurgents forced upper-class Palestinians, who typically wore the Ottoman fez, to don the kaffiyeh to show sympathy with the fighters. The kaffiyeh rose in prominence again in the 1960s when the Palestinian resistance movement started and Arafat famously adopted it. “Above all, it’s important to remember a kaffiyeh is something to wear like a hat, to keep out the cold, keep out the sun,” said Rochelle Davis, an assistant professor of culture and society at Georgetown University’s Center for Contemporary Arab Studies.
Where is it written that Palestinian's wore it while lynching innocent people? Come to think of it, why hasn't the KKK been declared a terrorist organization?
commanderkai commanderkai:
Edit: Here is a NYT article about the keffiyah controversy. They clearly identify what she wears as the keffiyah, unless you're seriously going to continue calling it just a simple scarf
You are a massive fucking liar. Rachel Ray isn't mentioned once in that article. Fuck you, little boy, and your too-stupid-for-words attempt at lying.
C.M. Burns @ Fri May 30, 2008 2:04 pm
commanderkai commanderkai:
Well I don't know the commercial dress policy, nor am I any sort of actor, but even watching O'Reilly, they condemned Ray, and not DD.
Now it all makes sense. Instead of using the brain god gave you, you watch O'Reilly.
commanderkai @ Fri May 30, 2008 2:05 pm
C.M. Burns C.M. Burns:
Where is it written that Palestinian's wore it while lynching innocent people? Come to think of it, why hasn't the KKK been declared a terrorist organization?
You are a massive fucking liar. Rachel Ray isn't mentioned once in that article. Fuck you, little boy, and your too-stupid-for-words attempt at lying.
commanderkai commanderkai:
Edit: Here is a NYT article about the keffiyah controversy. They clearly identify what she wears as the keffiyah, unless you're seriously going to continue calling it just a simple scarf
You are a massive fucking liar. Rachel Ray isn't mentioned once in that article. Fuck you, little boy, and your too-stupid-for-words attempt at lying.
You are a fucking idiot. I did not say RACHEL RAY Controversy. I said the keffiyah controversy, which is alot older, and has been dealing with the mainstreaming of this piece of clothing that has turned into something that represents a terrorist movement.
Guess why that NYT article had absolutely no reference to Rachael Ray...
"Published: February 11, 2007"
Ooh...wow, the New York Times has no time machine.
Oh and that expert. To quote
"The kaffiyeh rose in prominence again in the 1960s when the Palestinian resistance movement started and Arafat famously adopted it"
See there, it was adopted as a piece of the "Palestinian resistance movement" which, in many cases, involves terrorist groups.
Oh and don't even pretend Hamas and Islamic Jihad are terrorist groups.
commanderkai @ Fri May 30, 2008 2:09 pm
C.M. Burns C.M. Burns:
commanderkai commanderkai:
Well I don't know the commercial dress policy, nor am I any sort of actor, but even watching O'Reilly, they condemned Ray, and not DD.
Now it all makes sense. Instead of using the brain god gave you, you watch O'Reilly.
Don't we all love personal attacks? I could of attacked xerxes for going onto a blatently rabid left wing site "crooksandliars" too, but I didn't. I just used O'Reilly as an example as how they only attacked Rachel Ray and not the Dunkin Donuts
Toro @ Fri May 30, 2008 2:40 pm
Wait a second. Who's that back there enjoying a lite ice late?
Thanks Pfizer
C.M. Burns @ Fri May 30, 2008 2:45 pm
commanderkai commanderkai:
Don't we all love personal attacks?
Yes, you do. You may recall that, without any provocation, you called me an 'arrogant, cocky asshole.' You stepped into the ring so be man enough to take a punch.