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Try new LordCo synthetic engine additive. The blessings of Jesus make your car run smoother.

   

"I don't care if it rains or freezes
'Long as I got my plastic Jesus
Riding on the dashboard of my car
Through my trials and tribulations
And my travels through the nations
With my plastic Jesus I'll go far"

   

He didnt say God was a man in the sky, human like means God has similar emotions, thoughts ect God is something people can relate to.

   

If God has the same emotions and thoughts as humans, then God help us. No wonder he's so big on killing and retribution, and seems to have no problem condemning the majority of humanity to everlasting torment. Although if I understand Dante right, non-believers just go to the outer circle of hell, ie limbo. But boredom sounds like a torment to me.

   

I don't know why this is not a "live and let live" topic. I am unaffected by religion in Canada. I don't impose my (lack of) religion on others. It's never even come up really. Hawking just draws attention to something that can't be hastened or changed. I get the feeling that we are waiting for definitive proof one way or another? Where's the win?

   

We hate uncertainty. It can never be proven that God doesn't exist - you can't prove a negative. You can show that God is pretty unlikely, but then you first have to exactly define God - and not many people are going to agree with your definition.

I also doubt if humans will ever all have certainty that God does exist - but we're all dying to find out.

   

It's because fanatical religious belief appears to be on the rise.

   

You had me up until that point.

The thing is as science marches on its looking less and less likely that there is a benevolent creator. You can move the definition to what ever you want, but its getting harder and harder to take religious teachings as fact. If you dont take religious teachings as fact, good for you, you are progressing with the rest of society please continue to live in relative peace with others.

   

Not being able to prove the non-existence of something is pretty standard philosophy. Something can be very unlikely, but not having seen something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Again, you are conflating religion with monotheism, and unsophisticated monotheism at that. Buddhism has no creator God. Hinduism does, but he's not really involved in peoples lives. As for benevolent creator, if there is an intelligence at play in the universe, it may be involved in creation. You know physicists have come out with statements like "there is no out there out there" - the material world we experience is mediated thru our consciousness - positivist materialism is as much of a fallacy as guy in the sky. Even many Christians relate to the bible more as a metaphorical guide that a book of facts. So it all depends on which religious teachings you are talking about.

   

Yes I am quite aware of string theory and the concept of ten dimentions, that our interpretation of the universe is limited to our own narrow view. I'm saying that science is trying to expand on what we can interpret and understand, while the more popular religions (christianity, islam ect) seem to attempt to limit it.

If you want to be a buddist and contemplate on how you will achieve nirvana, go right ahead I dont have a problem with that. I do have a problem with people standing up and saying "Science is wrong wrong wrong, its a tool of the devil to confuse you! If you believe in evolution you will wind up in hell."

I dont have any problem with the contemporary moderate theists, its the radical evangelical extremeist that are the problem.

   

I didn't know it was a contest.

   

I beg your pardon

Science is the basis of all we know, the very computer you posted your uninformed post on was brought about by the process of the skeptical scientific process. Science relies on proof and does not involve inflexible dogma. It does not use "faith", if that were true instead on Boeing having assembly lines they would simply "Prayer build" 747's

Faith and Religion offers nothing but an imaginary afterlife where supposedly after a life many trials we earn our ultimate 'reward".

But only if you do what god tells you to do, or rather what some person at the head of some church tells you what he thinks god wants you to do. That kind thinking is inimical to human progress. And only corrupts humanity into thinking that they can do anything they like, well because their preacher,pastor or mullah said god want them to do.


Science offers a rational system of determining a way forward for mankind, religion constantly strives to eliminate introspection, skepticism and progress.

   

Bullshit

Science relies on proof, religion relies on the very opposite.

   

For some of us it isn't, for others, it is.

I've never understood why the extremes on both sides of the issue act as if this is an all-or-nothing argument. Scientific discoveries do not shake my faith and my faith does not blind me to scientific truths and I have a hard time dealing with people whose belief in religion or science is threatened by one or the other.

   

Me too, and only when they try to push their views on others, such as banning the teaching of evolution. But that's the problem when people use the term religion to really mean this minority of people - it tars everybody with the same brush.

   

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