Soldiers awarded US$134 million in suit against Omar Khadr
DrCaleb @ Fri Jul 03, 2015 12:22 pm
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
I've never said they were fake. Can you show me how it's possible to prove a negative?
So you don't actually know your quote below is a fact then?
$1:
"Did those bombs go off? Did he set them off? No."
So the video of Omar putting IEDs together for the terrorist organization Al Qaida is not fake, and we don't know what happened to all the bombs he assembled. Is that what you're saying?
I am writing exactly what I wrote. Nothing more, nothing less.
Are you saying you have proof that they went off? Are you saying you have proof that he set them off? I'll bet you aren't.
By the way - questions are not 'fact'.
N_Fiddledog @ Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:34 pm
You seem confused. Allow me to quote myself.
$1:
The video of Omar putting IEDs together for the terrorist organization Al Qaida is not fake, and we don't know what happened to all the bombs he assembled.
DrCaleb @ Fri Jul 03, 2015 4:28 pm
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
You seem confused. Allow me to quote myself.
$1:
The video of Omar putting IEDs together for the terrorist organization Al Qaida is not fake, and we don't know what happened to all the bombs he assembled.
Allow me to clarify then; if we don't know what happened to the bombs he assembled, why do you keep posting the same video (that no one is disputing) in these threads, besides the possibility that you have new evidence as to what happened to them?
To stir up shit by inflaming an already sensitive subject, perhaps?
N_Fiddledog @ Fri Jul 03, 2015 6:13 pm
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Allow me to clarify then; if we don't know what happened to the bombs he assembled, why do you keep posting the same video (that no one is disputing) in these threads,
That easy. I don't. I don't even know what you mean by "these threads", or "the same video".
In this thread there was a pic of a frame from a 60 minutes episode. Why post the pic, you mean? That's also easy. Go back to the previous page and check it out.
Apparently there is a video somewhere of Omar assembling bombs for Al Qaida though. It is what it is.
PublicAnimalNo9 @ Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:29 pm
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
You calling 2Cdo a pussified leftist?
Yeah genius, that's exactly what said. Flaunting those critical thinking skills again I see.
2Cdo @ Sat Jul 04, 2015 5:33 am
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
You calling 2Cdo a pussified leftist?
Yeah genius, that's exactly what said. Flaunting those critical thinking skills again I see.
bootlegga @ Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:11 am
Unsound Unsound:
Still has not been explained to my satisfaction why throwing a grenade at people who are shooting at you in a war zone is a crime.
Don't get why it's so hard for you people to understand that no one objects to the stuff out of warm feelings for Khadr. There's some very important principals at stake here. Can the Canadian government just arbitrarily decide which citizens it will treat like citizens and which will be abandoned to the mercies of a foreign government?
But I suppose it's easier to just chant "terrorist lover" over and over again instead of defending your own position.
Don't get why it's so hard for you people to understand that no one objects to the stuff out of warm feelings for Khadr. There's some very important principals at stake here. Can the Canadian government just arbitrarily decide which citizens it will treat like citizens and which will be abandoned to the mercies of a foreign government?
But I suppose it's easier to just chant "terrorist lover" over and over again instead of defending your own position.
PublicAnimalNo9 @ Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:30 am
Unsound Unsound:
Still has not been explained to my satisfaction why throwing a grenade at people who are shooting at you in a war zone is a crime.
Because little Omar and his father were essentially mercenaries. And the Geneva Convention does not apply to mercenaries. On top of that, Omar was Canadian, his father was a plastic Canadian from Egypt and they were in A-stan, taking up with the terrorists and helping fight against us and our allies. One could call it treason.
Jabberwalker @ Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:44 am
I'm really perplexed at his Khadr or anyone anywhere is expected to pay a settlement like that ... a loonie at a time?
Whatever you think of Khadr (and my opinion of him is that he is less than dirt) ordering a $134 million settlement is totally whacko, out there over the top and way beyond. This ruling must have come from an American court. No judge is that crazy here.
PublicAnimalNo9 @ Sun Jul 05, 2015 8:14 am
Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:
I'm really perplexed at his Khadr or anyone anywhere is expected to pay a settlement like that ... a loonie at a time?
Whatever you think of Khadr (and my opinion of him is that he is less than dirt) ordering a $134 million settlement is totally whacko, out there over the top and way beyond. This ruling must have come from an American court. No judge is that crazy here.
Whatever you think of Khadr (and my opinion of him is that he is less than dirt) ordering a $134 million settlement is totally whacko, out there over the top and way beyond. This ruling must have come from an American court. No judge is that crazy here.
I think the ruling came about because it's been pretty much predetermined up here in Canada that he's going to walk out of this with millions. I seriously doubt he'll get anywhere near $134 million but the US ruling does kind'a pre-empt any cash award he'll get here.
Unsound @ Sun Jul 05, 2015 9:14 am
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
Unsound Unsound:
Still has not been explained to my satisfaction why throwing a grenade at people who are shooting at you in a war zone is a crime.
Because little Omar and his father were essentially mercenaries. And the Geneva Convention does not apply to mercenaries. On top of that, Omar was Canadian, his father was a plastic Canadian from Egypt and they were in A-stan, taking up with the terrorists and helping fight against us and our allies. One could call it treason.
I would be completely fine with charging him with treason. In fact I'm kind of pissed that they didn't extradite him immediately after he was captured and do just that.
Leaving a Canadian citizen in a prison of dubious legal standing where he was tortured and denied basic rights was just stupid. That's what has caused all the problems.
As I and many others have said, none of our objections to what's happened with Omar cones from sympathy or affection for him. It's all about wanting or government to treat all citizens equally because as soon as they can change the rules for one group they can change the rules for any other group they don't like.
I don't know about you, but I don't think it's a good idea to trust the government with that kind of power.
Jabberwalker @ Sun Jul 05, 2015 9:31 am
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:
I'm really perplexed at his Khadr or anyone anywhere is expected to pay a settlement like that ... a loonie at a time?
Whatever you think of Khadr (and my opinion of him is that he is less than dirt) ordering a $134 million settlement is totally whacko, out there over the top and way beyond. This ruling must have come from an American court. No judge is that crazy here.
Whatever you think of Khadr (and my opinion of him is that he is less than dirt) ordering a $134 million settlement is totally whacko, out there over the top and way beyond. This ruling must have come from an American court. No judge is that crazy here.
I think the ruling came about because it's been pretty much predetermined up here in Canada that he's going to walk out of this with millions. I seriously doubt he'll get anywhere near $134 million but the US ruling does kind'a pre-empt any cash award he'll get here.
Why the hell would Canada give him a nickel? Canada is just an innocent bystander in all of this.... except for providing shelter to the horrid Khadrs in the first place. Omnar owes US millions for getting him out of the goulag in Guantanamo Bay!
N_Fiddledog @ Sun Jul 05, 2015 9:40 am
Unsound Unsound:
I would be completely fine with charging him with treason.
So I asked myself, 'Do we even do that? And when was the last time we did, if we do?"
Wanna take a trivia break? It's kind of a fascinating story. Ever heard of "the Kamploops Kid?"
His name was Kanao Inouye, and he was hung for treason in 1947.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanao_Inouye
$1:
After the Japanese capitulation in August 1945, Inouye was arrested in Kowloon and tried for war crimes by a military tribunal. He was convicted and was sentenced to death. However, the verdict was overturned on appeal, since as a Canadian citizen, he could not be prosecuted for war crimes committed by an enemy army.
In April 1947, Inouye was tried on the criminal charge of treason, was again found guilty and sentenced to death. Subsequently, on August 27, 1947, he was executed by hanging on the gallows at Hong Kong's Stanley Prison. His last word was "Banzai!"
In April 1947, Inouye was tried on the criminal charge of treason, was again found guilty and sentenced to death. Subsequently, on August 27, 1947, he was executed by hanging on the gallows at Hong Kong's Stanley Prison. His last word was "Banzai!"
The last guy I could find before that was Louis Riel.