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Soldiers are very useful, they sacrafice there lives and mental health to defend there country and those in it. They fight chaos, terrorism, and bring relief to war-torn countries. They bring peace to countries as UN Soldiers.

All of there sacrafice is worth them getting paid a lot, although they don't. Being a soldier has never been a high paying job unless you were in the really high ranks.

Although a soldier DESERVES to be paid more over a teacher, a teacher is a lot more valuable and important and thus would get the higher pay check. The education system is a important part of a country. It helps our economy grow by giving new workers, and new buisness owners. It brings a working society together, unlike that of third world countries with the lack of education where all they do is kill each other.

What bugs me however is the a majority of teachers actually don't give two shits about educating kids, it's all just a job to them that they try to do and get over with. I have had so many of those teachers growing up, who do not deserve increase pay.

It's the teachers that actually care about there students getting a education and willing to spend extra timing with them getting there grades up and expressing concern over there dropping grades instead of just shrugging at them and going back to your day. Those teachers deserve the high pay.

   

What about professional athletes who get umpteen million dollars per contract? Are they worth that kind of money, for what they provide to society?

   

No, but given the amount of $$ floating around for the Owners(not all though)and the fact that we the Fans are willing to pay a certain amount they are paid at a reasonabble rate.

   

In my personal opinion, no, but I'm not a sports fan. In society's opinion...yes, since people play hundreds of dollars to get good seats at an area or a stadium to watch a team play a game against another team. I don't know the complexities, or the rigor needed to be an amateur athlete, let alone one on the professional level.

So if I asked an amateur athlete why so and so deserves x millions of dollars, they'll probably tell me that they're amazing and they can do this and that...and I'll still think they're overpaid. Why? I see no value in them, but I'm just one man.

I'd rather have sci-fi writers be paid hundreds of dollars per book sold, but I'm an upstart writer myself. heh.

   

This really is a difficult thing to compare. Soldiers are called upon at times to sacrifice themselves so that we can be Free. That level of Sacrice/Need does not always exist to that extent, but even once a generation or 2 makes them vital.

OTOH, Teachers don't make anywhere near that level of Sacrifice, but their work is absolutely vital to all aspects of Society. This even includes the Military.

Personally, I think Military personnel certainly should be valued equally or more when they are called upon to Sacrifice their very Lives.

   

Sports contracts are quantified by the net worth of the player relative to their owner's value in them. That's not the case with academic arguments about the worth of the "soldier vs the teacher".

   

academia be damned. I've been both, and based on your arguments, you've been neither.

   

Man there are some gross misconceptions about the Military....

1. our housing is not subsidized...
2. after 20 years you do not get a full pension( 2% a year max 70%)
3. we have teachers in uniform ..who do you think our instructors are

These two professions are no where near alike and the gentleman who wrote the article
should check up on his facts before writing his form of verbal crap....

Proud serving member of 28years and counting

   

way to stick it to em dude!

under the military ubrella, they do ensure we have enough cash for living expensis, bills, etc. though.

   

So base housing isn't subsidized?

   

I lived in PMQs for almost 10 years. I think subsidized housing is in better repair. We lived on Virago and then Thetis Cres. in Belmont Park.

   

both integral part of todays society.

teachers...especially most elementary school teachers do sooo much more work than they are given credit for. My step sister put it perfectly when she commented as a kid when her mom,then an young teacher, was leaving back to school after dinner, 'the janitor makes more than you'.

   

Exactly. My wife was a teacher-principal and more often than not she was in school by 8AM and not home until 7 or 8 at night. On weekends we(I taught history, geography, science and outdoor education) did prep work, during the summer there was taking care of the school grounds, cleaning carpets, painting, stripping floors and all the paper work associated with running a school because 9/10 times you couldn't count on the locally hired janitor or clerk to show up 2 days in a row for work. We also helped organize after school activities, movie night, after school sports, camping trips and a shelter for kids whose parents were too pissed to take care of them, in jail, or kicking the living shit out of them(this is where I learned my appreciation for social services, native and non native).

   

If you think soldiers cannot be teachers then you have never been to a military training school. For instructor on a QL3 (trade) engineer course his day starts at 0500 to take the students on PT, after his shower and breakfast he must inspect the recruits at is usually at 0700-0730. Then he has to start his teaching job, which can include 3 or 4 classes taught to 2 or 3 different courses. Then at 1630 he gets to go home mark/grade tests, write new lesson plans or do some more instruction with his course. After all that is done he gets to be with his family before he has to get asleep again and take his course on another 8 km run at 5 am.

Add on to this any disciplinary problems he has to deal with regarding recruits and the fact that an instructor doesn’t get PD days, Snow days, Summer Break, and is usually teaching on long weekends.

A soldier can do a teachers job .

   

Not all NCOs are cut out to be instructors. Some of my PE teachers and coaches could have given any PERI a run for his money. Instructors are also dealing with adults, while teachers have to deal with a lot of little shits and the assholes that spawned them. Some soldiers can do a teachers job, and vice versa Most teachers in Israel are also members of the IDF and IAF reserve.

   

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