Soviet Submarine discovered in Swedish waters
Newsbot @ Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:08 pm
Title: Soviet Submarine discovered in Swedish waters
Category: Military
Posted By: Scape
Date: 2011-03-04 23:14:40
DanSC @ Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:08 pm
Any word from the Russian Navy?
mikewood86 @ Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:39 pm
DanSC DanSC:
Any word from the Russian Navy?
Let me get them on the line
Freakinoldguy @ Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:20 pm
Since the Swedish Navy isn't showing any interest in the wreakage, maybe they're the ones responsible for it being there in the first place. ![[B-o]](./images/smilies/drinkup.gif "Drink up")
Might be that they don't want to open up old wounds.
gonavy47 @ Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:21 am
Looks to me that the sub has been cannabilized for parts. I believe it was probably under tow to the scrapyard. The one picture of the diver outside the sub, clearly shows that the pressure door has been removed by the hinges.
QBall @ Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:51 am
gonavy47 gonavy47:
Looks to me that the sub has been cannabilized for parts. I believe it was probably under tow to the scrapyard. The one picture of the diver outside the sub, clearly shows that the pressure door has been removed by the hinges.
Amen. While it would make a fantastic recreational dive (if you prepared for a cold water dive) it appears to be a derelict not worth the Russian's or Swede's time to salvage.
BartSimpson @ Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:47 am
http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Sweden ... 5264270023
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The Swedes have discovered a sunken submarine at the bottom of the Baltic Sea, south of the island of Gotland.
According to the Swedish Armed Forces, the wreck was actually found in connection with a dive by marine researchers as long ago as in 2009, but the discovery was made public only now.
According to Swedish Radio, the Armed Forces first believed the wreckage to be one of the wartime U-boats sunk by the Soviet Union that the Swedish Navy had already mapped out previously.
Recently it was realised, however, that the wreck in question is previously unknown and dates from the time of the Cold War.
The Swedes famously hunted Soviet subs in their waters with little material success apart from the embarrassing case of S-363, a Whiskey-class Soviet submarine that ran aground close to the Swedish naval base of Karlskrona in October 1981, but now the Swedish Navy suspects that the vessel may be another such Soviet sub, possibly one that sank while being towed.
According to retired General Bengt Gustafsson, the former Commander of the Swedish Defence Forces, the Navy chased Soviet submarines in waters around Utö back in 1980, and the sunken vessel could be a Soviet submarine that was hit by depth charges back then.
According to the Swedish Armed Forces, the wreck was actually found in connection with a dive by marine researchers as long ago as in 2009, but the discovery was made public only now.
According to Swedish Radio, the Armed Forces first believed the wreckage to be one of the wartime U-boats sunk by the Soviet Union that the Swedish Navy had already mapped out previously.
Recently it was realised, however, that the wreck in question is previously unknown and dates from the time of the Cold War.
The Swedes famously hunted Soviet subs in their waters with little material success apart from the embarrassing case of S-363, a Whiskey-class Soviet submarine that ran aground close to the Swedish naval base of Karlskrona in October 1981, but now the Swedish Navy suspects that the vessel may be another such Soviet sub, possibly one that sank while being towed.
According to retired General Bengt Gustafsson, the former Commander of the Swedish Defence Forces, the Navy chased Soviet submarines in waters around Utö back in 1980, and the sunken vessel could be a Soviet submarine that was hit by depth charges back then.
The 'explanation' that this was a sub under tow is BS. The Soviets would never have towed a disabled sub through anyone else's territorial waters given the risk that it could be seized.
Most likely it had been sunk and the Soviets had disavowed knowledge of any subs in the area at the time it was sunk.
Were it an actual salvage operation that went wrong the sub would've been raised given that it's in shallow waters.