Stephen Harper government won�t fund Toronto gay pride festival
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Lemmy @ Sun May 09, 2010 1:35 pm
CDN_PATRIOT CDN_PATRIOT:
All the more reason to vote Conservative. The 'pride' parade is a waste of time and space anyways. Downtown Toronto really doesn't need to be clogged fll of floats with gays spraying people with super soakers, and dressed like rejects.
There are far better things the government can fund than this garbage. Send the money towards reducing the deficit, or invest in transportation or something.
There are far better things the government can fund than this garbage. Send the money towards reducing the deficit, or invest in transportation or something.
Because the Conservatives have such a good track record of fiscal responsibility.
You need to take a lesson in economics. The best way to reduce the debt is to generate economic activity. A $400,000 investment creates MILLIONS in economic activity. If you hate fags, hate away, but staging events that draw tourism is sound economics.
PublicAnimalNo9 @ Sun May 09, 2010 2:00 pm
While I agree with you in priciple Lemmy, the problem is, it's the Federal gov't.
I really don't see why someone's taxes from NFLD or BC should pay for forking over to pay for something that benefits TO and only TO.
I felt the same way when Rae decided Ontario taxpayers would help foot the bill for the Skydome. Hell, not only did I not live in TO or the surrounding area, I freakin' HATED baseball.
The way I see it, if it's not even remotely got anything to do culturally with Canada, the Feds should stay out of funding it.
And sorry if I offended anyone that might be gay, but you ain't a culture anymore than being blonde makes you part of a culture.
You got your legitmacy in Canada several years ago. Time to stand on your own two feet.
And maybe those that benefit from the millions in economic activity should be the ones helping to support the parade, festival, whatever they wanna call it.
RUEZ @ Sun May 09, 2010 2:52 pm
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
RUEZ RUEZ:
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
I wouldn't count on it with all the BS he's pulled off this year already.
At this rate, in 5 years when someone says his name, the resposne will invariable be, "Who? Ohhh you mean that stupid, American ass kissing, Brian Mulroney wanna be?"
At this rate, in 5 years when someone says his name, the resposne will invariable be, "Who? Ohhh you mean that stupid, American ass kissing, Brian Mulroney wanna be?"
What are you talking about Iggy doesn't want to be like Mulroney.
Ummm I was referring to Harper??
Yes I know, I just find it comical that people like you continually call Harper an American wannabe, and completely ignore the opposition leader that lived there 20+ years.
KorbenDeck @ Sun May 09, 2010 3:06 pm
In regards to "parades" basically if its not celebrating a Canadian stat holiday (Canada Day, Christmas, etc) than I don't see the point in it getting federal funding. Where I live our parades are payed for by sponsors, not by taxpayers.
EyeBrock @ Sun May 09, 2010 3:47 pm
Especially a parade that is supposed to promote acceptance that is hijacked by bigots.
Lemmy @ Sun May 09, 2010 4:11 pm
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
While I agree with you in priciple Lemmy, the problem is, it's the Federal gov't.
I really don't see why someone's taxes from NFLD or BC should pay for forking over to pay for something that benefits TO and only TO.
I really don't see why someone's taxes from NFLD or BC should pay for forking over to pay for something that benefits TO and only TO.
I made that point earlier, though certainly an event like this, while staged in Toronto, generates GST revenue, PST revenue and Federal Income Tax revenue.
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
I felt the same way when Rae decided Ontario taxpayers would help foot the bill for the Skydome. Hell, not only did I not live in TO or the surrounding area, I freakin' HATED baseball.
Skydome was a white elephant from day one.
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
The way I see it, if it's not even remotely got anything to do culturally with Canada, the Feds should stay out of funding it.
And sorry if I offended anyone that might be gay, but you ain't a culture anymore than being blonde makes you part of a culture. You got your legitmacy in Canada several years ago. Time to stand on your own two feet.
And maybe those that benefit from the millions in economic activity should be the ones helping to support the parade, festival, whatever they wanna call it.
And sorry if I offended anyone that might be gay, but you ain't a culture anymore than being blonde makes you part of a culture. You got your legitmacy in Canada several years ago. Time to stand on your own two feet.
And maybe those that benefit from the millions in economic activity should be the ones helping to support the parade, festival, whatever they wanna call it.
I don't disagree with you, though I think you understimate the tangible, economics benefits to Ontarians, not just Torontonians.
EyeBrock @ Sun May 09, 2010 4:38 pm
This article sums it up quite well.
http://network.nationalpost.com/NP/blog ... fusal.aspx
RUEZ @ Sun May 09, 2010 5:42 pm
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
Proculation @ Sun May 09, 2010 7:55 pm
isnt culture a PROVINCIAL domain ? 
OnTheIce @ Sun May 09, 2010 9:31 pm
Lemmy Lemmy:
2Cdo 2Cdo:
IF they funded it, that would be wrong. I don't agree with government funding for ANY parade of ANY group.
Not even the Santa Claus parade? I can accept that the Feds shouldn't be funding this, or even perhaps, the province. But municipalities funding parades (and community events like parades) is exactly what municipal governments are supposed to do. Like I said earlier, $400K is a small investment for the benefits of the Pride parade to the city of Toronto. It's a worthy thing for Toronotonians to be spending on. I don't think, similarly, that Torontonians should expect Montrealers or Calgarians to chip in though.
Exactly!
QBall @ Mon May 10, 2010 6:59 am
All this is is plain extortion. The gays are telling the government "Give us what we want or we'll label you homophobic". I say the government did the right thing. If it's such a boon for the city than the city and it's private interests can pay for it.
EyeBrock @ Mon May 10, 2010 7:37 am
Even the Toronto Star readers are 67% against federal funding for this event despite a column lambasting the Tories.
Interesting.
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/806698
PublicAnimalNo9 @ Mon May 10, 2010 8:42 am
RUEZ RUEZ:
Yes I know, I just find it comical that people like you continually call Harper an American wannabe, and completely ignore the opposition leader that lived there 20+ years.
Uhhhh...yeeeah
I strongly suggest you re-read what I said. Follow the commas.
bootlegga @ Mon May 10, 2010 12:01 pm
It ain't just gays who got rejected by the Marquee Tourism program, but all sorts of 'arts' related programs, like Edmonton's Fringe Festival and the Folk Music Festival (both the largest in all of Canada).
Instead the Edmonton Indy and Edmonton Eskimos are getting giant checks. Given that the Eskimos are already the most profitable team in the CFL, this is just ridiculous.
$1:
Federal gov't snubs Folk Fest, Fringe
The Edmonton Folk Festival is singing the blues again after the federal government denied the organization any funds from its Marquee Tourism Events program.
The Edmonton festival -- the largest of its kind in Canada -- had asked for $500,000, but finished out of the money for a second year in a row.
Edmonton Northlands, on the other hand, will get $821,000 for the Honda Indy Edmonton -- twice the amount it got last year. That event lost a total of $9.2 million in 2008 and 2009.
"What this does, without a doubt, is give us an opportunity to build the event," said Mike Burton, Northlands' director of major events. This is the last year of a three-year agreement the city has to host the Indy "so we want to make sure we do the best for Edmonton. The goal of the event is to drive tourism and international recognition."
The Edmonton Eskimos scored a touchdown, too, and will be on the receiving end of $426,000 -- three times as much as last year -- as host of the 2010 Grey Cup game and festival.
The Edmonton Folk Festival is singing the blues again after the federal government denied the organization any funds from its Marquee Tourism Events program.
The Edmonton festival -- the largest of its kind in Canada -- had asked for $500,000, but finished out of the money for a second year in a row.
Edmonton Northlands, on the other hand, will get $821,000 for the Honda Indy Edmonton -- twice the amount it got last year. That event lost a total of $9.2 million in 2008 and 2009.
"What this does, without a doubt, is give us an opportunity to build the event," said Mike Burton, Northlands' director of major events. This is the last year of a three-year agreement the city has to host the Indy "so we want to make sure we do the best for Edmonton. The goal of the event is to drive tourism and international recognition."
The Edmonton Eskimos scored a touchdown, too, and will be on the receiving end of $426,000 -- three times as much as last year -- as host of the 2010 Grey Cup game and festival.
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/travel/F ... story.html
EyeBrock @ Mon May 10, 2010 12:10 pm
Another thing that drives me insane are all these shows on TV that have gained funding from the Fed's or a Province.
Toopy and Binoo get funding from Canada and Quebec, as do a myriad of other kids shows, HGTV real estate shows, bullshit game shows.
Why should my tax dollars go to this stuff? Yet I get hosed with a 'health care premium' and we have another 8% going on EVERYTHING in Ontario.
It's all bollocks!
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