Tamils crowd downtown Toronto streets in latest protest
maldonsfecht @ Mon May 18, 2009 9:02 am
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
I do believe there are 300 million Tamils living in India quite peacefully. This is politics on the Third World level.
thrown in our faces right here at home! Look kids, just like in the news! we can bring schoolchildren's model UNs to the protests and have them issue nasty letters... can't wait for other groups to take this path in Toronto, say after the next round of Danish cartoons...
ridenrain @ Mon May 18, 2009 9:11 am
With their stronghold broken and "their" people scattered, the LTTE must negotiate with the government or start their gorilla insurection all over again. Unless the SriLankan government are total clods, they should be able to end this now.
Just another example of how insurections can be put down.
Proculation @ Mon May 18, 2009 9:12 am
CommanderSock CommanderSock:
$1:
I do believe there are 300 million Tamils living in India quite peacefully. This is politics on the Third World level.
60 million in India. [A very, rough estimate].
You know, to be quite honest, I didn't think the 21st century warfare was capable of bringing us complete, total, and utter capitulations anymore as a result of wars. I thought we had wishy-washied ourselves into believing that constant meaningless ceasefires were the way to go.
I am slightly and pleasantly surprised. This can set a precedent for a few never-ending conflicts around the world that the UN and we here (the so called west) have made un-winnable due to constant cease-fires and hypocritical finger wagging.
Imagine the Nazis and Allies constantly signed ceasefires when Germany was in retreat prolonging WW2 by 40 years.
The President sure did a great job there by pursuing them until the last one and the leader.
EyeBrock @ Mon May 18, 2009 9:14 am
CommanderSock CommanderSock:
$1:
I do believe there are 300 million Tamils living in India quite peacefully. This is politics on the Third World level.
60 million in India. [A very, rough estimate].
You know, to be quite honest, I didn't think the 21st century warfare was capable of bringing us complete, total, and utter capitulations anymore as a result of wars. I thought we had wishy-washied ourselves into believing that constant meaningless ceasefires were the way to go.
I am slightly and pleasantly surprised. This can set a precedent for a few never-ending conflicts around the world that the UN and we here (the so called west) have made un-winnable due to constant cease-fires and hypocritical finger wagging.
Imagine the Nazis and Allies constantly signed ceasefires when Germany was in retreat prolonging WW2 by 40 years.
Ok, I'll go with 60 million peaceful types in India. I'm just wondering why the Tamils here by-passed India?
Proculation @ Mon May 18, 2009 9:18 am
ridenrain ridenrain:
With their stronghold broken and "their" people scattered, the LTTE must negotiate with the government or start their gorilla insurection all over again. Unless the SriLankan government are total clods, they should be able to end this now.
Just another example of how insurections can be put down.
Just another example of how insurections can be put down.
According to the sources, the LTTE is no more.
ridenrain @ Mon May 18, 2009 9:30 am
$1:
“I was in Colombo, in Sri Lanka, in the spring, and I was there to give a lecture in honour of a man whose memory I revere, Neelan Tiruchelvam...He was a moderate Tamil politician, and in 1996, coming home from an institute of academic research, he stopped at a stoplight, and a young woman drove up on a little scooter, detonated herself, and blew him out the other side of the car…… somehow, by the mysterious and slightly chilling grapevine of modern international life, when the word got out that I was going to give a lecture in Colombo in his honour, I began to get very extraordinary bits of Tamil literature, mailed to me with a Canadian postmark.… the sum and substance of these newsletters was basically to say that Neelan, got what he deserved. … And it shocked me deeply to discover that the people who wished and rejoiced in his death were fellow citizens of my country.”
-Michael Ignatieff Dec 05, 2000
-Michael Ignatieff Dec 05, 2000
You'd think he'd know better.
EyeBrock @ Mon May 18, 2009 9:31 am
ridenrain ridenrain:
$1:
“I was in Colombo, in Sri Lanka, in the spring, and I was there to give a lecture in honour of a man whose memory I revere, Neelan Tiruchelvam...He was a moderate Tamil politician, and in 1996, coming home from an institute of academic research, he stopped at a stoplight, and a young woman drove up on a little scooter, detonated herself, and blew him out the other side of the car…… somehow, by the mysterious and slightly chilling grapevine of modern international life, when the word got out that I was going to give a lecture in Colombo in his honour, I began to get very extraordinary bits of Tamil literature, mailed to me with a Canadian postmark.… the sum and substance of these newsletters was basically to say that Neelan, got what he deserved. … And it shocked me deeply to discover that the people who wished and rejoiced in his death were fellow citizens of my country.”
-Michael Ignatieff Dec 05, 2000
-Michael Ignatieff Dec 05, 2000
You'd think he'd know better.
Nah, not while there is an ethnic vote to grab.
CommanderSock @ Mon May 18, 2009 9:46 am
$1:
Ok, I'll go with 60 million peaceful types in India. I'm just wondering why the Tamils here by-passed India?
Race relations differ in the two nations. India is more inclusive politically than sri-lanka. That's what Sri Lankans I know say. 2 sides to every story.
EyeBrock @ Mon May 18, 2009 10:14 am
Yea but why Canada over India? That's what I'm asking. 60 million Tamils in Tamil-Nadu Province. I don't see the attraction for those polictically active Tamils, which many appear to be.
ridenrain @ Mon May 18, 2009 11:40 am
CBC newsworld just had an interview with Ghormy Theva "a third-year criminology and political science student at York University and a spokesperson for the Coalition to Stop the War in Sri Lanka".
Pretty as hell but an awful spokesman. I guess the news of the leader's death and the rebel surrender hit her because she was a disorganizd stuttering mess. She was predicting that the resistance would still be going on because the poor victim families were being herded into concentration camps, didn't have medical aid and lost their freedom to move.
.. uh.. duh. It's a war zone? The other thing is these folks were caught in rebel teritory so even if they can't be proven to be sympathisers, they can be suspected as such. Once the rebels are weeded out, these folks need to be scattered so they can merge back into SriLanken society.
I'll post the interview when they show it but here's a primer.
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/632777
I expect she'll be running as a Liberal or NDP candidate in the next couple of years or so.
Proculation @ Mon May 18, 2009 1:15 pm
They need to get over it: the Tigers are gone. If she's a sympathiser, arrest her that's all. The LTTE is not considered terrorists for the fun. Hamas, Hezbollah, LTTE flags... one time we have to say that's enough.
llama66 @ Tue May 19, 2009 4:17 am
I loved how the women and children were in the front of the protest. kudos to the Toronto Police for the way they handled things. but in the future they should arrest the ring leaders under the terrorism act and hold them on security certificates, the LTTE are/were a terrorist organisation and really if you are out waving a flag of an known terrorist organisation then you are supporting terrorism and you don't belong in Canada. perhaps we should look long and hard at who we are letting into this nation, I was unimpressed to say the least at the fact that these people decided to exercise their freedom of assembly on a major expressway. its time to assert ourselves and show that while you may have rights you do not have the right to interfere with other people rights. I for one would never vote for Ghormy Theva if she ran liberal or NDP, she clearly does not represent direction that this nation should be going.