Toronto man charged for catching thief has day in court
Newsbot @ Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:43 am
Title: Toronto man charged for catching thief has day in court
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: Regina
Date: 2009-10-22 08:06:45
Canadian
Choban @ Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:43 am
In hindsight if they knew this was the guy then they should have called the cops, then they would have to hope they get there before the guy steals more or just leaves. Then they have to convince the cops to detain the guy. Then they can finally show their evidence to the officers. My god what a farce.
I hope they manage to get this citizens arrest law expanded to give more power to average people. It makes no sence that the criminal can charge someone who apprehended him.
Public_Domain @ Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:21 pm
commanderkai @ Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:28 pm
"Detective Chris Trites said shoplifting is a problem everywhere. He said it's not fair to cast stones at police for not cracking down enough.
“It's easy for people to say things like, ‘You should do something about drugs' or, ‘You should do something about theft,'” he said. “If people really want to help, then they should be offering some sort of positive solutions or positive ideas.” "
He did find a solution...HE DETAINED THE THIEF FOR YOU. You're just pissed that he actually did the work for you, and as such, gets the credit.
Brenda @ Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:32 pm
Chen, my man, Kudo's to you. I hope you win this case. You have the guy on tape, stealing. You catch him an hour later. Does that make it unlawful? I don't think so. It shouldn't be the way that you get away with theft over and over again, only because they don't catch you right at that moment.
ttruscott @ Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:09 pm
No intent to commit a crime? Then, no crime.
The precept of mens rea should hold.
Brenda @ Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:17 pm
ttruscott ttruscott:
No intent to commit a crime? Then, no crime.
The precept of mens rea should hold.
The precept of mens rea should hold.
So a murderer could kill, but it will only be a crime if he is caught doing it?
Tomorrow, it is not a crime anymore, not even when I have it all on tape, and ALL my neighbours recognize him doing it over and over again?
PublicAnimalNo9 @ Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:27 pm
Holyyyyy fuckkkk!!! Some little shit gets off for doing 200+kph and this poor guy is getting railroaded for protecting his property. By the standards that have been set, if the police cuff you and throw in the back of the car, that's kidnapping and unlawful confinement then too right??
Makes me wonder if crack boy's daddy is/was a cop too 
ridenrain @ Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:05 pm
Way to go, Toronto cops.
That's really "world class" policing there.
ttruscott @ Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:56 pm
Brenda Brenda:
ttruscott ttruscott:
No intent to commit a crime? Then, no crime.
The precept of mens rea should hold.
The precept of mens rea should hold.
So a murderer could kill, but it will only be a crime if he is caught doing it?
Tomorrow, it is not a crime anymore, not even when I have it all on tape, and ALL my neighbours recognize him doing it over and over again?
Your question does not relate to my claim about mens rea...
If a murderer had a plan to commit murder, it is murder no matter when they catch him. If he kills someone by accident or whatever without a plan to kill him, it is not murder, no matter when they catch him.
Neh?
T
Brenda @ Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:58 pm
ttruscott ttruscott:
Brenda Brenda:
ttruscott ttruscott:
No intent to commit a crime? Then, no crime.
The precept of mens rea should hold.
The precept of mens rea should hold.
So a murderer could kill, but it will only be a crime if he is caught doing it?
Tomorrow, it is not a crime anymore, not even when I have it all on tape, and ALL my neighbours recognize him doing it over and over again?
Your question does not relate to my claim about mens rea...
If a murderer had a plan to commit murder, it is murder no matter when they catch him. If he kills someone by accident or whatever without a plan to kill him, it is not murder, no matter when they catch him.
Neh?
T
That is not the issue here. Maybe THIS time he didn't plan on it, but ALLLLL the other times, he did. That still makes him quilty of theft, no matter when they catch him.
Your mens rea doesnt fit here.
Public_Domain @ Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:12 pm
ttruscott @ Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:13 pm
Thanks Mr. Canada !
Brenda @ Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:14 pm
Oh. My bad 
But the clerk intentionally citizen arrested him... Apparently, you can't...
Brenda @ Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:15 pm
ttruscott ttruscott:
Thanks Mr. Canada !
Sorry T!