Trump administration cites Edmonton attack in call for immig
Newsbot @ Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:21 am
Title: Trump administration cites Edmonton attack in call for immigration changes
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: shockedcanadian
Date: 2017-10-09 06:08:58
Canadian
shockedcanadian @ Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:21 am
Looks like any efforts of Canada, the RCMP and their surrogates to subvert America in one form or another, is now going to be slightly more difficult.
Considering the lack of leadership to call the attacks in Edmonton terror, this isn't a surprise.
Vbeacher @ Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:24 am
There is no attempt to subvert America (except perhaps by Trump. However, the importation of hundreds of thousands of people from countries which are increasingly embracing more and more rigid and anti-western interpretations of Islam will certainly subvert Canada, and is already in the process of doing so.
shockedcanadian @ Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:09 am
Vbeacher Vbeacher:
There is no attempt to subvert America (except perhaps by Trump. However, the importation of hundreds of thousands of people from countries which are increasingly embracing more and more rigid and anti-western interpretations of Islam will certainly subvert Canada, and is already in the process of doing so.
Sorry, we disagree.
From the Toronto Police, to OPP, RCMP and CSIS, we are not an ally to the U.S. State actors in American corporations in the name of National Security.
If anyone thought this was going to continue unchallenged when we have a free trade agreement, well, we know now it will not. It will continue regardless of who is president.
Canada can try and schmooze U.S governors into seeing the world through their lens, it will not prevent reality from being presented to voters who will in turn NOT support increase trade with socialist and neo-communists.
You know who to thank...
DrCaleb @ Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:48 am
So why didn't the US deport him when the judge ordered it, instead of releasing him from prison so he could enter Canada illegally?
BRAH @ Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:09 am
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
So why didn't the US deport him when the judge ordered it, instead of releasing him from prison so he could enter Canada illegally?
Trump is saying the system that allowed this Terrorist entry into Canada is screwed.
DrCaleb @ Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:26 am
BRAH BRAH:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
So why didn't the US deport him when the judge ordered it, instead of releasing him from prison so he could enter Canada illegally?
Trump is saying the system that allowed this Terrorist entry into Canada is screwed.
While conveniently ignoring the system that let him, instead of deporting him.
We already know both systems are screwed. But having Trump pull another of his 'ignore this, look over THERE!' routines to distract from the issues doesn't work with most people. He wants us to ignore that this guy couldn't be deported to Somalia under US law, but wants money for his wall, that changes nothing about the ability to deport people!
Vbeacher @ Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:17 am
shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:
Vbeacher Vbeacher:
There is no attempt to subvert America (except perhaps by Trump. However, the importation of hundreds of thousands of people from countries which are increasingly embracing more and more rigid and anti-western interpretations of Islam will certainly subvert Canada, and is already in the process of doing so.
Sorry, we disagree.
From the Toronto Police, to OPP, RCMP and CSIS, we are not an ally to the U.S. State actors in American corporations in the name of National Security.
If anyone thought this was going to continue unchallenged when we have a free trade agreement, well, we know now it will not. It will continue regardless of who is president.
Canada can try and schmooze U.S governors into seeing the world through their lens, it will not prevent reality from being presented to voters who will in turn NOT support increase trade with socialist and neo-communists.
You know who to thank...
Could you try repeating that in a coherent manner which gives me some kind of clue what the hell you're complaining about?
DrCaleb @ Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:22 am
^^ Good luck with your quest!
N_Fiddledog @ Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:43 pm
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
So why didn't the US deport him when the judge ordered it, instead of releasing him from prison so he could enter Canada illegally?
You'd have to ask whoever was in charge in America in 2011 I guess. Let's see now, who was that? Hmmm...
What the current regime seems to be saying though is this:
$1:
What happened after Sharif was taken into U.S. custody is unclear; American officials won't say if he actually made an asylum claim in that country. But U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement has confirmed that just a few months later, on September 22, 2011, an immigration judge ordered Sharif removed to Somalia.
Sharif never appealed that decision.
"A deportation gets issued but it doesn't get executed right away," said Michael Greene, an immigration lawyer in Calgary.
"If they're considered not a danger to the public and not a flight risk, they release them — it's one of the reasons they have some 11 million illegals in the U.S."
Sharif never appealed that decision.
"A deportation gets issued but it doesn't get executed right away," said Michael Greene, an immigration lawyer in Calgary.
"If they're considered not a danger to the public and not a flight risk, they release them — it's one of the reasons they have some 11 million illegals in the U.S."
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/ ... -1.4330527
herbie @ Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:47 pm
$1:
But having Trump pull another of his 'ignore this, look over THERE!' routines to distract from the issues doesn't work
Almost a year of nothing but....
N_Fiddledog @ Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:53 pm
What I find more interesting is we're now discovering this terrorist is actually another one of these phony refugees who broke the law to exploit our own weak bureaucracy and scam status of a Canadian.
It's interesting that this was even happening back in 2011 under Stephen Harper. Shame, shame Steve. Should have plugged those holes back then, and maybe we wouldn't have to be dealing with the tens of thousands upon thousands of future Sharifs storming across the border illegally today at the twitter invitation of the latest MIC (Moron In Charge).
Vbeacher @ Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:15 pm
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
What I find more interesting is we're now discovering this terrorist is actually another one of these phony refugees who broke the law to exploit our own weak bureaucracy and scam status of a Canadian.
It's interesting that this was even happening back in 2011 under Stephen Harper. Shame, shame Steve. Should have plugged those holes back then, and maybe we wouldn't have to be dealing with the tens of thousands upon thousands of future Sharifs storming across the border illegally today at the twitter invitation of the latest MIC (Moron In Charge).
It's interesting that this was even happening back in 2011 under Stephen Harper. Shame, shame Steve. Should have plugged those holes back then, and maybe we wouldn't have to be dealing with the tens of thousands upon thousands of future Sharifs storming across the border illegally today at the twitter invitation of the latest MIC (Moron In Charge).
Harper tinkered with immigration and refugees, but he was too terrified of being accused of racism - which he would have been - had he really cracked down. As it was, him refusing to rush Syrian refugees into Canada after that boy was shown on TV drowned had the media reacting like their hair was on fire.
BartSimpson @ Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:22 pm
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
So why didn't the US deport him when the judge ordered it, instead of releasing him from prison so he could enter Canada illegally?
It was cheaper to give him the chance to self-deport to Canada.
By the way, thanks again for taking him and showing us what awful meanies we are for not embracing these wonderful exemplars of The Religion of Peace™
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DrCaleb @ Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:13 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
So why didn't the US deport him when the judge ordered it, instead of releasing him from prison so he could enter Canada illegally?
It was cheaper to give him the chance to self-deport to Canada.
By the way, thanks again for taking him and showing us what awful meanies we are for not embracing these wonderful exemplars of The Religion of Peace™
The problem with your bias is that Religion plays little role in that guy's life.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/ ... -1.4341270