Universal basic income seems to improve employment and well-
Tricks @ Thu May 14, 2020 8:40 am
Robair Robair:
Next mass job extinction is truck drivers. The number one profession in the U.S.
It's not, but it's up there. It's #14, which is still significant.https://www.careeronestop.org/Toolkit/C ... rentpage=2
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These autonomous trucks will need programmers, but not full time to drive them. More of a one and done, then your heavy duty mechanic will be trained on the diagnostic stuff. I don't see a net job creation.
I think you'd find that for a while they'd still require someone behind the wheel as a just in case measure. Further down the line though, they likely won't be needed.
Robair @ Thu May 14, 2020 8:51 am
They are talking about the trucks going long distances on the freeway by themselves, then pulling over and stopping to wait for a driver from the off ramp to the loading dock and back.
Tricks @ Thu May 14, 2020 8:55 am
Robair Robair:
They are talking about the trucks going long distances on the freeway by themselves, then pulling over and stopping to wait for a driver from the off ramp to the loading dock and back.
Interesting. I still feel like people won't trust it enough right off the bat.
DrCaleb @ Thu May 14, 2020 9:13 am
Robair Robair:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Zipperfish Zipperfish:
The other thing is that robots will be responsible for so much of the productivity in a decade or two, there just won't be as much work to go around.
It's actually been the trend in the economy that automation replaces the tedious tasks that people don't want. It ends up making more knowledge work than it removes manufacturing work.
That's why science eliminates personal opinion. You already know that automation has been increasing over the years. You also know that there are more people employed now (in the before time) than ever.
Why do you think that automation leads to job losses when stats show it doesn't?
Robair Robair:
Amazon, for example, replaced how many small shop jobs with it's automated warehouses?
Jobs there might not have been created anyhow. But Amazon still employs more people now than 10 or 15 years ago.
Robair Robair:
Next mass job extinction is truck drivers. The number one profession in the U.S.
These autonomous trucks will need programmers, but not full time to drive them. More of a one and done, then your heavy duty mechanic will be trained on the diagnostic stuff. I don't see a net job creation.
These autonomous trucks will need programmers, but not full time to drive them. More of a one and done, then your heavy duty mechanic will be trained on the diagnostic stuff. I don't see a net job creation.
Certain industries may experience losses, that is true. Which is why I support retraining them to do something else. But overall, employment increases as automation increases.
herbie @ Thu May 14, 2020 9:35 am
Self driving 40,000L gas tankers on the Fraser Canyon, Coquihalla, Malahat.
Yeah, just can't wait for that one.... use mt flying car a lot then!
More likely to see some Trade Agreement agreement that lets $5 an hour Mexican drivers deliver all the way up to Whitehorse to "compete" with local drivers.
Robair @ Thu May 14, 2020 12:10 pm
Those aren't interstates...
Robair @ Thu May 14, 2020 12:15 pm
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
That's why science eliminates personal opinion. You already know that automation has been increasing over the years. You also know that there are more people employed now (in the before time) than ever.
Not something I've looked into, but I also know there are more people total than ever before. You're wording makes it sound like total jobs vs percent of population... ?
I also know that 87% of statistics are made up on the spot.
What's your source?
DrCaleb @ Thu May 14, 2020 12:27 pm
Robair Robair:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
That's why science eliminates personal opinion. You already know that automation has been increasing over the years. You also know that there are more people employed now (in the before time) than ever.
Not something I've looked into, but I also know there are more people total than ever before. You're wording makes it sound like total jobs vs percent of population... ?
I also know that 87% of statistics are made up on the spot.
What's your source?
Lemmy's frequent economics lessons.
Total number of people increases, total number of jobs increases, number of manufacturing robots increases. Robots don't replace people's jobs, they augment them. People aren't always replaceable by robots; they have other jobs to do:
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/humans-vs-r ... e-1.976017
DrCaleb @ Thu May 14, 2020 12:31 pm
Here is also a good article, with little tidbits like:
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The number of operational industrial robot jobs increases by 14% annually.
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About 33% of new jobs created in the United States are for occupations that did not exist or barely existed 25 years ago.
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It is estimated that automation can accelerate the productivity of the global economy by 1.4% of global GDP annually.
https://fortunly.com/statistics/automat ... tatistics/