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We should.

Btw, this topic is not about infanticide. Infanticide is a complex situation. It is not just "killing a child under a year old".

There are degrees in murder-intent for rational people, there are degrees in any other crime. It is not just as black and white as you would want it to be.

   

My personal view is that anyone accused and proven guilty of infanticide should be held to the same standards of punishment as any other murderer.

   

And this is actually a very pragmatic thought given that Canada is currently trying to sustain population levels via immigration.

It would make more sense to work on increasing the domestic birth rate before increasing immigration, but that option is politically charged so the reality is that Canada in fifty years will be far less Canadian than it is today. For that matter, it may not even be Canada in fifty years.

As to my views on choice?

I'm pro-choice.

Meaning that people who do not want to have kids should choose to use birth control. People who choose not to use birth control are free to do what they want to do but on their own dime. Don't ask me to pay to kill your mistakes for you.

   

Thank you, Dear Leader. Enforced child rearing and farm cultivation of native born children will defitely increase our population without having to bring those nasty Northern Europeans in.

   

I said no such thing, though if trying to attribute that to me makes you feel better about yourself, well, I'm in a generous mood today.

   

Abortion and immigration have nothing to do with each other.
You cannot have 13, 14, 15 year old children have children, or just have women pooping out children that end up in foster care because they cannot take care of theirs.

Birth control is not free of charge either, you know that, right?

   

If you make abortion illegal though, then Canadians have more kids and certain identifiable groups then don't need to be brought in.

   

Like I said, the option is politically charged, as you have so adroitly illustrated.

Now, where did I say such a program should be enforced? Hmmm? I'm all for encouraging a higher birth rate but where on God's green earth do you get off accusing me of wanting to force such a thing? I said no such thing of the kind.

I'd also oppose it.

But encouraging couples to have kids with tax credits, housing credits, and etc. would be perfectly acceptable ansd that's what I have in mind.

   

We get it. You don't like Bart and see nothing but evil in his posts.

   

Oh please, condoms and the pill cost less for a month than a coffee a day.
I guess it's all about priorities.

   

Actually, I like many of Bart's posts, but not all of them.

   

Be careful, or I will clog you on the ass

More kids in foster care... Yay! More kids abused... Yay

   

I don't know, I never buy coffee, I make my own. I know what I paid for my IUD tho.

Then again, I am responsible, and did not have more children than the 2 I have. I will not be able to take care of them, since I am prone to PPD. Some people are not, and don't know how to buy food at the end of the week, or don't know better than children are there to hurt and abuse.

What would you want, let them be born and put into foster care after years of getting shit, or have them aborted very early on in the pregnancy?

   

Except that they do.

Here's a source that is fairly neutral:

http://geography.about.com/od/obtainpop ... siapop.htm



The same dynamic applies to other countries, as well, but with Canada, the USA, and Western Europe we're offsetting the decline in births with immigration. The Russians, being classic xenophobes, don't even want the children of Russian emigres to return to Russia.



Nope, that's not what I said, but feel free to jump to conclusions. We almost need a forum medal for that category and, trust me, I'd be happy to vote for you getting it, too.



For some people it is. That applies to Canada, the USA, and most of Europe (save for Poland).

   

So if Canadians have more kids it will mean a rise in child abuse? Nice f*cking leap of illogic.

   

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