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Not seeing much of that here.

   

CBC

   

Guess we better make sure the clergy in the military never advance above junior officer ranks then.

   

Gunnair we disagree and I'm sorry for that one but your just dead freaking wrong here.

Religion is for church and you private life not for the public chair and shouldn't be advocated for by officials.

We pay this guy to stop crime not use his post as a pulpit for faith.

   

You're are correct we do disagree and like you said, you are dead freaking wrong here, Jeff.

This guy is no more preaching to convert nor abusing his position. He made an emotional plea to the faithful to offer up some prayers in an effort to assist him and the police (beyond of course all if the secular activities they can do) with their fight on crime.

That's it full stop. Cue then the howling monkey atheists (see probation on insult thread - this is how one offers a personal insult but hides behind it by it being a simple generalization ) who for some reason take it as some personal slight that a person in a public position can exercise his faith.

He did not suggest that all of the Godless heathens must convert to (insert religion here) in order for him to progress this as a legitimate strategy, as some suggest. This was nothing more than him speaking to a like minded group of people - not s room full of miserable teeth gnashing evolutionists (see insult thread and generalizations again) in order to get them to toe the party line and talk to God.

Had he sat down in that room full if atheists and suggested positive thinking and being mindful of your community might help fight crime I doubt we'd hear near as much screeching. Maybe some polite clapping and an eye roll or two.

But prayers by the faithful - let's place that man in the stocks.

Now, Jeff, I will gladly accept your apology and a virtual beer so that we can move on.

   

As an atheist, I don't see it as him using his post as a pulpit.

I see a man who's religious that's looking in the wrong place to solve crime.

   

Here's the title: Tell me where there words Christian group appear in it?

Here's part of the body of the text: Does it mention a Christian group?

WTF is wrong with you guys? At least Benn seemed to get my point. Man, this forum is nuts, people just seem to read what they want to go after somebody.

   

Yeah, that's about where I'm at. My beef is that he's just created a big controversey for no reason other than, apparently, to further a personal agenda. If I were his boss (the mayor?) I'd be thinking that wasn't a good judgment call.

   

He made his comments to a Christian group. I see nothing wrong with that. I don't believe in supplicatory prayer, but might suggest to someone that does that they pray to ease their mind. Reading the OP, there's no mention of that. My guess is that he didn't deny making the comment to the Christian group while being interviewed by CBC, nor should he have to. Of course that's not clear from the OP, maybe he reiterated his idea during the CBC interview to a larger, non-denominational audience.

   

Chaplains 'aint the right sort to be leading troops into battle. That's why they are Chaplains and not company commanders. Pretty straight forward stuff really.

   

I'm saying he's advocating faith as a solution over non faith. He's advocating faith as an option over no faith. Not that he's advocating any particular religion.

I suppose the word pulpit was not the most accurate given those assertions but I don't apologize for my opinion. I have a right to have it and you have a right to yours.

What we don't have is a right to use a public chair to advocate any group over another in terms of race, sex, religion or otherwise. I think Brenda put it best when she said to substitute the word wish for pray.

BTW the only way this would be hypocritical is if I was in his position and someone asked me if praying would help. If I responded with "Of course not that's silly!" I would be guilty of being hypocritical. If I responded with "If you think it helps then go ahead" that's not taking sides.

   

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