Winnipeg police chief touts prayer to help combat crime
Brenda @ Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:54 pm
Is he telling you that you should pray, or is he wearing a turban, like Catholics are wearing a cross?
Brenda Brenda:
Is he telling you that you should pray, or is he wearing a turban, like Catholics are wearing a cross?
The point might be that the very obvious aspects of Sikhism were adopted into mainstream society to allow him his freedom of religion.
Curtman Curtman:
I think if we have a police chief who believes in...miracles that's the bigger issue.
You're unclear on the concept of faith, aren't you?
Gunnair Gunnair:
Brenda Brenda:
Is he telling you that you should pray, or is he wearing a turban, like Catholics are wearing a cross?
The point might be that the very obvious aspects of Sikhism were adopted into mainstream society to allow him his freedom of religion.
Exactly.
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Curtman Curtman:
I think if we have a police chief who believes in...miracles that's the bigger issue.
You're unclear on the concept of faith, aren't you?
I don't think so. Believing that prayer will help is one thing, but if he's suggesting it's a strategy that his officers should employ then I think he should present some case studies to show its effectiveness. There ought to be follow up reviews of how the practice is working out. Something. Otherwise, save it for Sunday choir.
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Curtman Curtman:
I think if we have a police chief who believes in...miracles that's the bigger issue.
You're unclear on the concept of faith, aren't you?
Betcha if that same Police Chief also supported the legalization of pot, Curt would be dunking himself in the Red River and shouting out a Te Deum...
Curtman Curtman:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Curtman Curtman:
I think if we have a police chief who believes in...miracles that's the bigger issue.
You're unclear on the concept of faith, aren't you?
I don't think so. Believing that prayer will help is one thing, but if he's suggesting it's a strategy that his officers should employ then I think he should present some case studies to show its effectiveness. There ought to be follow up reviews of how the practice is working out. Something. Otherwise, save it for Sunday choir.
$1:
"I think if we have a community that's consistently praying for one another, hopefully we'll now see the physical reduction of crime and violence in our city," Clunis, who is a Christian, told CBC News in an interview.
Hmmm... suggesting community prayer for each other might instead be a way of focusing attention on the well being of your neighbor instead of the cynical strategies you think they are.
In one of the divisions of the LAPD, we had a shift commander (Capitan)that was very religious yet generally kept it to himself. From time to time, at the scene of a particularly gruesome crime or accident, we saw him say a quick and somewhat silent prayer for the victims. His display of empathy, quietly and tastefully done, won him respect from even those of us who were not religious because he felt it so deeply and it helped mold the way he delt with people.
He was an outstanding police officer and commander. I'm not religious at all but I don't see where this Canadian Chief is causing a problem.
Gunnair Gunnair:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Curtman Curtman:
I think if we have a police chief who believes in...miracles that's the bigger issue.
You're unclear on the concept of faith, aren't you?
Betcha if that same Police Chief also supported the legalization of pot, Curt would be dunking himself in the Red River and shouting out a Te Deum...
Ave Maria-juana....
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
Gunnair Gunnair:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
You're unclear on the concept of faith, aren't you?
Betcha if that same Police Chief also supported the legalization of pot, Curt would be dunking himself in the Red River and shouting out a Te Deum...
Ave Maria-juana....

Brenda @ Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:27 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Gunnair Gunnair:
Brenda Brenda:
Is he telling you that you should pray, or is he wearing a turban, like Catholics are wearing a cross?
The point might be that the very obvious aspects of Sikhism were adopted into mainstream society to allow him his freedom of religion.
Exactly.
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I doubt it would be accepted if he, as chief, would tell everyone to convert to Sikhism.
I have no problem with this chief wearing any religious token. I have a problem with him saying, while in function as Chief of Police, that "we should all pray because that is what I believe".
I dob't care what he believes. Do your job, don't preach. UNLESS preaching is your job.
Brenda Brenda:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Gunnair Gunnair:
The point might be that the very obvious aspects of Sikhism were adopted into mainstream society to allow him his freedom of religion.
Exactly.
![Drink up [B-o]](./images/smilies/drinkup.gif)
I doubt it would be accepted if he, as chief, would tell everyone to convert to Sikhism.
I have no problem with this chief wearing any religious token. I have a problem with him saying, while in function as Chief of Police, that "we should all pray because that is what I believe".
I dob't care what he believes. Do your job, don't preach. UNLESS preaching is your job.
Well, I don't think he's in any way trying to convert people by suggesting people pray for their fellow neighbors and their community.
I bet if he'd said, please think kind thoughts about your community, everybody would be smiling politely and nothing more.
But the 'P' bomb gets dropped and...





Brenda @ Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:37 pm
That's because everybody can think nice thoughts. Not everybody prays.
Imagine that!! The former police chaplain asking people to pray for their fellow citizens in times of trouble.....The absolute horror of it all.
Toastmaker Toastmaker:
In one of the divisions of the LAPD, we had a shift commander (Capitan)that was very religious yet generally kept it to himself. From time to time, at the scene of a particularly gruesome crime or accident, we saw him say a quick and somewhat silent prayer for the victims. His display of empathy, quietly and tastefully done, won him respect from even those of us who were not religious because he felt it so deeply and it helped mold the way he delt with people.
He was an outstanding police officer and commander. I'm not religious at all but I don't see where this Canadian Chief is causing a problem.
Right on!