World's biggest wealth fund blacklists 4 Canadian energy fir
Freakinoldguy @ Sun May 24, 2020 1:16 pm
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
Given Saudi Arabia's favoured nation status with this gov't, does this mean that there'll be no more carbon tax on the oil sands crude? 
What’s it like to live in your imaginary world where you just make up false facts that you wish were true?
Canada-Saudi relations have been hostile under Trudeau compared to Harpers love-in, there’s no favoured nation status. In fact among Saudi has expelled the Canadian ambassador and recalled its own over Trudeaus criticism of their human rights record. Meanwhile Trudeaus Canada provides safe harbour to Saudi dissidents and defectors (which I believe you objected to in another Trudeau Derangement fit). Among those defectors is one of Saudis top intelligence officials.
False facts? You might want to try and quit using the Favoured Nation Status term as an excuse to avoid the question. So do me a favour and answer this. Is imported Saudi Oil subject to the Liberal carbon tax and if not, why not?
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnis ... -and-taxes
Also in my haste to create false facts I must have forgotten that anything current which is embarrasses or is controversial to you know who is automatically HARPER'S fault. I'm sorry but I forgot but to be honest you're going to have to come up with a new shtick because using that excuse has worn thin especially since Harper hasn't been the PM since 2015.
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BeaverFever @ Sun May 24, 2020 2:36 pm
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
When and where has “liberal Canada” ignored Saudi misdeed?
The lack of opposition when they bought the Wheat Board.
Again.., that happened under Harper.
BeaverFever @ Sun May 24, 2020 3:28 pm
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
Given Saudi Arabia's favoured nation status with this gov't, does this mean that there'll be no more carbon tax on the oil sands crude?
What’s it like to live in your imaginary world where you just make up false facts that you wish were true?
Canada-Saudi relations have been hostile under Trudeau compared to Harpers love-in, there’s no favoured nation status. In fact among Saudi has expelled the Canadian ambassador and recalled its own over Trudeaus criticism of their human rights record. Meanwhile Trudeaus Canada provides safe harbour to Saudi dissidents and defectors (which I believe you objected to in another Trudeau Derangement fit). Among those defectors is one of Saudis top intelligence officials.
False facts? You might want to try and quit using the Favoured Nation Status term as an excuse to avoid the question. So do me a favour and answer this. Is imported Saudi Oil subject to the Liberal carbon tax and if not, why not?
Yeah its a false fact. They’re not even on friendly terms let alone “most favoured “ terms.
Just like your false claim that the liberal gun ban included coffee and airsoft rifles and websites.
Just like your false (and completely implausible) claim that Trudeau somehow magically made it so all FN people on trial must be found not guilty
Just like your false claim that there are special exceptions for Saudi oil.
The carbon tax is a tax on emissions generated in Canada. Any imported goods, whether oil or otherwise, or from Saudi or otherwise, by definition did not generate emissions in Canada when they were produced. That said, you will pay a carbon tax on gas at the pump regardless of where it came from.
As fo blame Harper, Harpers actions are harpers actions The arms deal was his deal. It was too far along and too large for Trudeau to simply decree it null and void years later.
Freakinoldguy @ Sun May 24, 2020 4:48 pm
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
Yeah its a false fact. They’re not even on friendly terms let alone “most favoured “ terms.
Just like your false claim that the liberal gun ban included coffee and airsoft rifles and websites.
Just like your false (and completely implausible) claim that Trudeau somehow magically made it so all FN people on trial must be found not guilty
Just like your false claim that there are special exceptions for Saudi oil.
The carbon tax is a tax on emissions generated in Canada. Any imported goods, whether oil or otherwise, or from Saudi or otherwise, by definition did not generate emissions in Canada when they were produced. That said, you will pay a carbon tax on gas at the pump regardless of where it came from.
As fo blame Harper, Harpers actions are harpers actions The arms deal was his deal. It was too far along and too large for Trudeau to simply decree it null and void years later.
Just like your false claim that the liberal gun ban included coffee and airsoft rifles and websites.
Just like your false (and completely implausible) claim that Trudeau somehow magically made it so all FN people on trial must be found not guilty
Just like your false claim that there are special exceptions for Saudi oil.
The carbon tax is a tax on emissions generated in Canada. Any imported goods, whether oil or otherwise, or from Saudi or otherwise, by definition did not generate emissions in Canada when they were produced. That said, you will pay a carbon tax on gas at the pump regardless of where it came from.
As fo blame Harper, Harpers actions are harpers actions The arms deal was his deal. It was too far along and too large for Trudeau to simply decree it null and void years later.
You claim is that our carbon tax is paying for emissions generated in Canada, then the question becomes. Why are we paying carbon taxes for exported petroleum products that produce carbon in other countries? The Saudi's don't have that tax and don't pay for the carbon their oil produces in Canada?
$1:
Does it make sense to tax Albertan oil exports to the U.S. while importing foreign oil tax free into eastern Canada? Moreover, the current system fails to efficiently reduce global emissions given the prospects of domestic production being replaced by imports from countries with lower environmental standards.
https://business.financialpost.com/comm ... y-backward
Oh wait. Now I know why:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brun ... -1.4122789
And, if Trudeau can ban 1500 guns with an Order in Council why couldn't he do that with the arms deal to Saudi Arabia? And if Trudeau can break Canada's UN treaties on the legalisation of a scheduled drug why couldn't he stop the arms deal with the Saudi's? Seems to me he's picking and choosing what he wants to stop.
And your partisan delusions must now be affecting your ability to read English or, maybe you just chose not to because accusing other people of making false claims is much more fun than facing the fact that you're gov't is really a bunch of idiots.
https://thepostmillennial.com/airsoft-g ... government
And just so you can't pull your usual left wing shit and attack the source here's another one that should eliminate any chance of you claiming that it's all made up.
https://www.westernstandardonline.com/2 ... rsoft-toy/
and what a about this terrifying assault style weapon:
(z.117) Black Rifle Company BRC15B;
Google that description and you'll find that you're wrong, yet again but since you're never going to do that here's where it leads you:
https://www.blackriflecoffee.ca/
And for clarities sake here's the entire list of Liberal banned firearms. I suggest you read it before accusing me or anyone else of making false claims.
http://canadagazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p2/202 ... -154x3.pdf
As for the rest of your false accusations I'm not going to go back to them because they've been beaten to death on here and not one person has changed their mind about their truth or validity.
Tricks @ Sun May 24, 2020 9:03 pm
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
And if Trudeau can break Canada's UN treaties on the legalisation of a scheduled drug why couldn't he stop the arms deal with the Saudi's?
So you're totally cool with the UN now? Or only when it serves you?
DrCaleb @ Mon May 25, 2020 5:59 am
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
When and where has “liberal Canada” ignored Saudi misdeed?
The lack of opposition when they bought the Wheat Board.
Again.., that happened under Harper.
And “liberal Canada” ignored it.
Freakinoldguy @ Mon May 25, 2020 10:21 pm
Tricks Tricks:
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
And if Trudeau can break Canada's UN treaties on the legalisation of a scheduled drug why couldn't he stop the arms deal with the Saudi's?
So you're totally cool with the UN now? Or only when it serves you?
Actually the UN doesn't serve me. As history has and is showing it serves who ever pays it the most and keeps it afloat.
But I don't expect you to understand that I could give two shits about the UN but what I do have is a problem with the breaking of treaties. And the reason for that is because, it sets a terrible precedence and gives rise to the possibility that, at some point in the future when you call in your allies treaty responsibilities they'll have the perfect excuse to claim you didn't honour your treaty responsibilities so you're on your own.
Tricks @ Tue May 26, 2020 6:54 am
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
But I don't expect you to understand that I could give two shits about the UN but what I do have is a problem with the breaking of treaties.
Never leaving treaties is equally ridiculous. No treaty is going to stand the test of time. That treaty is almost 60 years old and driven by fear, a lack of knowledge. One only needs to see fentanyl and heroin in the same class as pot to see they didn't have enough information to properly schedule these drugs.
$1:
And the reason for that is because, it sets a terrible precedence and gives rise to the possibility that, at some point in the future when you call in your allies treaty responsibilities they'll have the perfect excuse to claim you didn't honour your treaty responsibilities so you're on your own.
Then they were never our ally to begin with. If a country refuses to honour something like a defense treaty because we wanted to stop giving people criminal records for partaking in a drug that is no worse than other legal substances, then they were never going to honour the treaty anyways.
DrCaleb @ Tue May 26, 2020 7:05 am
Tricks Tricks:
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
But I don't expect you to understand that I could give two shits about the UN but what I do have is a problem with the breaking of treaties.
Never leaving treaties is equally ridiculous. No treaty is going to stand the test of time. That treaty is almost 60 years old and driven by fear, a lack of knowledge. One only needs to see fentanyl and heroin in the same class as pot to see they didn't have enough information to properly schedule these drugs.
To further this; treaties are what the UN is about. How we treat each other, our roles in the world, the laws regarding indigenous rights - all of these things are treaties that were forged in the UN through mutual co-operation. How can we have treaties to break without the framework to author them?