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Milton @ Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:05 am

<strong>Written By:</strong> Milton
<strong>Date:</strong> 2006-09-26 05:05:00
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Thought I'd share this rant with all you Veterans - It kills me when
idiots don't do their homework...

From the Veterans for 911 truth site <a href="http://www.v911t.org/SergeantLauroChavez.php">http://www.v911t.org/SergeantLauroChavez.php</a>

Hear the interview on the Alex Jones show <a href="http://www.v911t.org/M/Lauro%20LJ%20Chavez.mp3">http://www.v911t.org/M/Lauro%20LJ%20Chavez.mp3</a>

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Greetings Mr. White,

I felt it necessary to follow up to a recent story that
was published in Cincinnati Post. It was the 1 in 3 believe 9-11
conspiracy theory. I must admit that at first I was overwhelmed with
joy that our local paper was actually starting to have real journalism
and talk about real issues. Then I read the story and it was a total
debunk to make the actual people around the world who feel there was
something not right about 9-11, to look like over reacting
conspiracy theorists.

Im utterly outraged. My 9 year old daughter could have done more
research in this, as opposed to just trying to throw the publics ideas
and feelings out. Is this not what journalism is supposed to represent
- real issues? There have been many, many polls done in major cities
that actually ask people how they felt about the 9-11 tragedy. One
such poll is called the Zogby poll; which was offered in New York City.

Honestly I could care less what is done with this letter, but I feel
that I should speak my mind and Ill tell you some things that I have
not told many people at all. From 1995 till 2002 I was a Sergeant in
the United States Army. Not only this, but I was stationed at United
States Central Command, which is located at MacDill AFB in Tampa
Florida. I was on active duty when 9-11 happened. In the days prior to
the tragedies, we were involved in many exercises. Some of these
exercises included the scenarios of hijacked planes crashing into, our
building, the world trade center, the White House, Sears Tower, and the
Pentagon. These drills or exercises as we called them, were
classified Top Secret. Having a Top Secret rated clearance I was
dumbfounded that they would ever push a training exercise above the
level of Secret. Over my 8 years in the Army, I had participated in
many exercises around the world, none of which were ever classified
over the Secret level.

Ill start by saying a few months prior it was announced by President
Bush that Dick Cheney would be heading up operations over NORAD our
North American Aerospace Defense Command. Along with many of my peers,
we were shocked. Over the years, if you research NORAD, it has always
been under the command of a Military officer. It was done this way
because the defense of this country has always been in the hands of
such. Prior to the months before 9-11 this was all of the sudden
changed. Like I said, if you research NORAD and the command structure
you will find that it was imposed long ago that the military should be
in control of the order to scramble planes in the defense of American
air space. For some strange reason, Bush changed this and gave that
power to a civilian person on his Staff team yes I know, very
interesting.

Back to the morning of 9-11; the command was busy with this training
exercise. We were instructed to bring all our gear in to prep for a
mock (staged) deployment to the Middle East. On the morning of 9-11 I
had been on base prepped and ready to go since about 0400am. During my
time at the base that morning, they were setting up barriers around
the command and placing gun posts on the roofs. When I questioned one
of the security officers about the machine gun and shoulder fired
rockets on the roof I was given the answer its a precaution for a
plane attempting to crash into this building.

So, I was standing in the SCIF (Secure Compartmented Information
Facility), which is basically this underground bunker command post for
USCENTCOM, when the first plane hit. We were watching the fly patterns
of all the planes on the aerospace grid. This contained not only all
commercial flights at the time, but all military flights, and fake
enemy planes that were supposedly put on there for the exercise. Many
of the planes sent to intercept the fake blips were scrambled from
Andrews which is an air defense AFB for the East Coast. They were sent
across the US and left very few planes to defend the capital. After
the first plane hit the tower we were all in disbelief. After the
initial shock was over, our questions were what are the odds this
could happen for real, during a training exercise thats covering the
same scenario? We were all at wits end. Then to top all of this off,
Cheney gave NORAD the order to stand down scrambling jets to
intercept. A few moments later tower 2 was hit. Only after the
Pentagon was hit, did he give the orders to scramble the jets to
intercept the plane bound for the White House.

All of this is very interesting to me it sickened me so that I left
the Army after coming back from an 8 month deployment to Afghanistan.
There were just too many questions that no one could answer, too many
things that did not make sense. How is it possible to have a training
exercise about planes hitting the WTC and then actually have planes
hit the WTC? This kind of thing just does not happen unless its
pre-planned. What reason would there be to have this type of exercise
on that morning, Ill tell you if you are placing fake planes all
over the north American aerospace grid then you have no way of
knowing which planes are real and which are fake. Then to thicken the
plot you put a civilian in charge of NORAD so that the military does
not have the power to initiate the order for jets to be scrambled to
intercept. If the military would have still commanded power over NORAD
they would have scrambled jets because they would have simply
followed the procedures that had been in place for this type of
situation for years and years and scrambled jets.

To delve even further, as Im standing there watching the towers
collapse, next to me is one of my good friends and a former commander
of the Army Corps of Engineers. He is a demolitions expert. He was
even more surprised than me. When the towers collapsed he kept saying
this isnt right, this isnt right. When I asked him what he was
talking about he told me that steel buildings dont fall down that
way. Even if they are struck by objects; he went on to say that in
theory if the top 10 floors were hit, then possibly just that part of
the building would fall over and off, but the rest would remain
standing. When I asked him, not understanding the implications of
demolitions, he told me that it looked as if they were brought down by
controlled demolitions. I was utterly amazed, but after he said that
it did sort of appear that way.

Ill tell you what gave this whole thing away was building 7. If
they would not have brought this building down, then they probably
could have gotten away with it all. It was the most amazing site I
have ever seen. Not only was it amazing, it bore reality to the truth
of the situation something was not right here. Now, Im going to
tell you all I have learned, but I urge anyone to just spend 1hr
reading about this incident on the internet and learning the facts.
There have been numerous scholars, numerous physicists that have
analyzed this over and over and over again. And they all come to the
same conclusion, something does not add up. Building 7 was never
directly hit by a plane. Now it was stated that a piece of one of the
towers fell onto the side of building 7 and caught one of the floors
on fire. A few moments later we all witnessed the most perfect example
of controlled demolitions to ever be caught on camera. It could not be
proved that building 7 fell due to fire. My friend and I standing
there in the SCIF watching in uninterruptible awe with all those other
military members; watching building 7 fall perfectly onto its
footprint; my friend stating that it was beautifully done.

We all knew then we all realized that this was not some group of
unorganized cave dwellers from Afghanistan orchestrating a perfect hit
on American soil. It was impossible. Shortly after the Pentagon was
struck I called my close friend that I went to Basic Training with.
All civilian lines were down and I had to contact him via STU which is
a black line classified phone system. He did not answer, but one of
his soldiers did. I asked if SGT Worthington was ok and he said yes. I
asked if the plane did severe damage and he told me I didnt see any
plane. Then when I finally got to speak to my friend, he started
acting strange saying he could not talk about the incident over this
line. He was shipped off overseas a few weeks later and I never to
this day have had the chance to speak with him.

The Pentagon crash tape was released a few months back after 5 years.
You need to watch that tape no where can you see a plane strike the
Pentagon. This is because it was not a plane. I cannot tell you
exactly what hit the Pentagon, but its unanimous; it was definitely
not a plane. I can assure you that there is more than one CCTV camera
around the Pentagon. On September 25, 4 days before my 25th birthday,
I deployed to Afghanistan. Over the 8months I was there I had never
seen one intelligent Afghani soldier. They were all tattered and
scrawny and could barely shoot their weapons straight. This does not
mean that there were not men that could fly a plane, but after what I
saw it was extremely hard to believe they could be taught to fly a
sophisticated piece of aeronautical equipment.

My point Mr. Editor is that I spent 8 months in combat watching my
brothers die in the name of Freedom. I killed, in the name of Freedom
and to this day my brothers are still being killed for this
illusionary war we call the War on Terror. Where the enemy has no face
where there is no clear objective. In this War, anyone with ill
thoughts toward this country can be defined as a terrorist. Well, I
guess that includes me in this group as well as everyone else who
questions the events of 911, because we all hold ill thoughts toward
the leadership of this country and I say the real terrorists in this
world sit right in the heart of its capital.

I have bled for this country and would do so again in a heart beat
but only to protect its people, the true Americans that live here. I
would never again offer my life under the leadership whose real goal
is oil and money. The same ones who staged the most perfect
illusionary tactic in our history that was a pretext to a war on
terror that would never again go away. Their goal was to scare the
American public into submission making it easier for the world powers
to do their evil and get away with it.

Now that may sound like a typical conspiracy theorist I guess, but how
many do you actually talk to? Im not here saying that Aliens came
down and used laser beams to bring the towers down or control the
planes that were flown; Im telling you as a sane, logical and
intelligent individual, something does not add up about this. Earlier
this year I was watching the Discovery channel. They have a PBS
program called Rebuilding America. This particular episode was about
the WTC building 7. They interviewed Larry Silverstein (the owner)
about building 7. He stated on national TV the following which is the
direct quote and can be found here: <a href="http://www.wtc7.net/pullit.html">http://www.wtc7.net/pullit.html</a>

I remember getting a call from the, ER, fire department commander,
telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain
the fire, and I said, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the
smartest thing to do is pull it." And they made that decision to pull
and we watched the building collapse.

I actually have the program recorded and you are more than welcome to
come by my house and watch it. He actually stated this on national TV.
I was so amazed that I almost shat myself. I could not believe he
actually stated this on a nationally broadcasted TV program. You can
ask any person who has done controlled demolitions please interview
someone they will tell you it takes weeks of planning to do this. We
are expected to believe that this was facilitated and planned in a
matter of hours for building 7, while the damn thing was on fire you
have got to be kidding me. If that is not enough to make you believe
something was fishy well then nothing will ever do.

Since that time there have been numerous scholars, some of which have
actually been publicly broadcasted on CSPAN. The latest program was
called: Theories about 9-11. American Perspectives and you can watch
this (which I advise you do) per this link: Theories about 9-11
(American Perspectives) or you can go to <a href="http://www.c-span.org">www.c-span.org</a> and look under
their video/audio section to find this title. Its an outstanding
video and encompasses the thoughts of not only the American public,
but also Dr Steven Jones from Brigham Young University a physics
professor that actually received a piece of the rubble from the WTC.
Not only does he profoundly agree that building 7 was a controlled
demolition he can prove it. After he analyzed the piece of debris
they found; there were large traces of sulfur and Thermite found. If
you did not know, Thermite is a chemical compound found in many
explosives including C4 which I have used many times in the Army. It
leaves a distinct smell and identifiable residue upon explosion. Dr
Jones found large traces of this from the rubble.

Sir, there are many things that I never wanted to know for one that
the government that is supposed to be caring for the American people
could be corrupt. This was the last thing that I ever wanted to be
true but its time we wake up and smell the bullshit because its
permeating throughout the American public and we are all starting to
realize whats really going on. If your news station actually did a
similar Zogby type poll here in Cincinnati, I think you would find
that a lot more than 1/3 of the people believe this. I know tons just
in this area.

I could literally write you 100 pages of truths that could prove that
9-11 was an inside job, but Id probably just be passed off as some
crazy conspiracy theorist. Instead I want to give you the tools to
look for yourself because the quest for wisdom is a journey we must
all take alone. So, to you I add the following links and if you just
spend a small portion of your day reading and watching some of this
footage, who knows you may wake up and stand along side the rest of us
in utter amazement.


Respectfully,

SGT Lauro Chavez
United States Central Command

Thanks to the Internet, one of the few freedoms we have left, these
truths can be sent to the public. Thank God we dont have to rely on
news media to get this information out to everyone!

This is only about a 10th of my list of sites. Enjoy; and when you are
sick with the truth of things, let me know and Ill buy you a beer to
ease your nerves.

Loose Change Volume 2
(An outstanding documentary done about 911 that includes news reports
and live footage of the tragedy and finds that some things are not
what they seem)
<a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1519312457137943386&q=loose+change">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1519312457137943386&q=loose+change</a>


Official Pentagon Plane Crash Video
(You tell me where the plane is)
<a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5658198482624505213">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5658198482624505213</a>


Silverstein saying we decided to pull the building
The collapse of building 7
<a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6455428412411043437&q=WTC+building+7">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6455428412411043437&q=WTC+building+7</a>

Another video of bldg 7
(In this you can see the widely noticeable crinkle that is common in
controlled demolitions)
<a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9184329400593634920&q=wtc+7">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9184329400593634920&q=wtc+7</a>


Watch the following in sequence:

1. Showing the Thermite at work.
(In this video you can see the molten concrete and metal spewing out
of the WTC. This is what happens when a Thermite type explosive is
used to cut down steel pillars)
<a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=545886459853896774&q=thermite">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=545886459853896774&q=thermite</a>

2. Then watch this video
(it shows the spot where the molten metal is coming out the same
spot where the building crinkles and collapses)
<a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4763320529356355623&q=wtc+7">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4763320529356355623&q=wtc+7</a>





Misc Links for research:

<a href="http://www.911truth.org/">http://www.911truth.org/</a>

<a href="http://www.st911.org/">http://www.st911.org/</a>

<a href="http://www.infowars.com/">http://www.infowars.com/</a>

<a href="http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2006/020806tapesintensify.htm">http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2006/020806tapesintensify.htm</a>

Zogby Poll Results
<a href="http://www.911truth.org/images/911TruthZogbyPollFinalReport.htm">http://www.911truth.org/images/911TruthZogbyPollFinalReport.htm</a>



As you can see, Im not your typical conspiracy theorist I
actually have a good job! I thought at first I might send you this
from an anonymous email address, but you know what now you know Im
not just some stupid kid.
Thanks for taking the time to read.

Respectfully,

Lauro "LJ" Chavez
Director of Information Security
Domin-8 Enterprise Solutions

   



shagya @ Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:31 am

Not again. I've heard this story claiming a building on fire could not collapse so quickly, again and again. The conspiracy crowd forget the towers were hit by a cruise missile which happened to be in the shape of an airliner. Or those famous little "white puffs of smoke" [squibs] coming from the lower floors as the building pancaked. That's a compression wave people not controlled demolition ... anyway if your motive is to have a "false flag" operation then wouldn't the obvious thing be to just "let something happen"? That's at least conceivable. The trouble here is this would suggest that muslim nuts are at least as bad as the christian "fundies". For many people that's too complicated. Some leftists want to make islam into some type of substitute proletariat, a leninists' "active ingredient" in the 'anti-imperialist" struggle. [like the IMC types who delete any reference to those Danish cartoons]. Yuck! ... instead of simply realizing the islamic extremists are just playing their own version of the Bush game,ie. " flocking for defense" like chickens. The hope is that inducing an extreme reaction from the "other guy" will rally the troops. Nothing really new here.

   



rearguard @ Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:18 am

"The conspiracy crowd forget the towers were hit by a cruise missile which happened to be in the shape of an airliner."

WTC 7, which fell down on its footprint as if intentionally demolished, was not hit by anything. In fact, the entire WTC complex, consisting of 7 large buildings, was totally destroyed by the impact of only 2 commercial jetliners. The surrounding buildings outside the WTC complex somehow survived with only minor damage.

The issue at hand has nothing to do with "left", "center", or "right", there are people from all sides of the political spectrum voicing their doubts over the official 9-11 conspiracy theory, including some who came right out of Bush's own team such as Morgan Reynolds.

The list of problems with the official theory is a very very long one. For example, one of the more claring problems is with why the security videos showing all 19 of the alleged hijackers mingling around in the airports has not been released? The alleged terrorists would have been captured on several different cameras from a variety of angles, including the cameras positioned to record everyone boarding the planes.
If tyou want to fuel doubts about the 9-11 story, then you would withhold the video tapes, but what purpose would fueling doubt serve? The more obvious answer, is that the security cameras caught on tape something other than those alleged 19 hijackers.

   



Sgt_ShockNAwe @ Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:28 pm

Yes, the pattern of 'tape roundup' that occured on 9-11 was far too efficient and swift for anything other than a planned sequence of actions, planned weeks in advance. I'm just pissed that all those Americans gladly surrendered their evidence so willingly. I'd have hid the tapes immediately.

...And those where planes that hit the towers. They fueled from a real airport, took off with real wings, had real people on board, and flew on radar to their targets.

They may or may not have been remote-control seized after take-off, the US military has had this technology since the 60's and there was a strange unmarked large aircraft flying over New York that day that few people know about. This would have been the control aircraft.



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“The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous, the essential act of warfare is the destruction of the produce of human labour”

   



shagya @ Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:09 pm

I would suggest looking at the Wikipedia comment on "WTC seven". <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_World_Trade_Center">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_World_Trade_Center</a> My feeling is that "false flag" operations do not require anything as elaborate as a controlled demolition [or whatever]. Just "letting things happen" is a more likely scenario. I'll go with Occam and his razor on this one.

   



Milton @ Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:34 pm

Bull, you are just trying to steer the focus away from what has to be MIHOP (made it happen on purpose). Wikipedia has been taken over by hired trolls, and you guys still can't get your wits together enough to answer questions posed to you. Now be a reasonable person and answer the question about what the reason was for the collapse of Building 7.

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"Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth."
(Albert Einstein)

   



rearguard @ Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:20 pm

"Just 'letting things happen' is a more likely scenario"

You can't be serious.

A lot of effort goes into making buildings collapse in the way that WTC 1, 2 and 7 did. If "just letting it happen" produced those results so easily, then we'd see a lot less effort going into controled demolitions, and we would have seen much more than only 3 steel framed buildings ever to collapse from fires.

   



rearguard @ Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:46 pm

"Wikipedia has been taken over by hired trolls" <br><br> The editors at Wikipedia take the governments word as if it has a monopoly on the truth. Everything else is "alternative" or a "conspiracy theory" or "alleged". <br><br> Example: <blockquote> 7 WTC collapsed at 5:20 pm, with no casualties. No conclusive reason for the collapse has ever been established, however the most common theory is that the collapse was the result of structural damage sustained during the collapse of Towers 1 and 2, combined with widespread fires in the building.</blockquote> - <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collapse_of_the_World_Trade_Center">source link</a> <br><br> In reality, the most common theory is that the building was demolished intentionally with explosives, however the wiki editors ignore the controlled demolition theory completely, and only take into account theories concerning the collapse that specifically exculde content that implicates the government. <br><br> The fact is that the governments story concerning 9-11 is unproven and does not fit all the availble evidence nearly as well as the controlled demolition theory does. When it comes to controversial subjects, the wiki editors always seem to back up whatever the government and their MSM mouthpieces want us to believe. <br><br> To get the real story, I have to skip over the main wiki articles and read the discussuion pages. Wikipedia is going down the toilet.

   



4Canada @ Thu Sep 28, 2006 12:45 am

Anyone that believes these three building just fell in exactly the same way as each other on this one particular morning, no swaying, half falling, bits or chunks falling aside has had to suspend all reason. Falling in matters of seconds to the ground. It is beyond reason. There is no possible way.

I can agree with one thing Shag ya says and that is if the Bush government is not directly responsible for the WTC collapse then yes, they DID (knowingly), just let it happen.

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"And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." Friedrich Nietzsche

   



DL @ Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:57 am

Weather it's Wiki or other MSM it all has to be taken with a hefty dose of scrutiny. That the MSM has yet to offer a beleivable story about 911 and continues to parrot a story that is clearly impossible without even scratching the surface of the story, makes the MSM and Wiki next to useless. I'm am unwilling to surrender my own powers of observation, my own analysis, or my own intellect and substitute Wiki or the MSM who clearly are flogging lame ducks. Milton is right a reasonable person will want to find a resonable explanation for why building 7 fell.

   



Sgt_ShockNAwe @ Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:24 pm

I prefer S. Holmes to Occam:

'When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth'

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Sgt_ShockNAwe @ Tue Oct 03, 2006 1:56 pm

yah, I've read it, it claims the building collapsed on it's own from fire. It reports that firefighters observed partial collapse and sagging. But steel frame buildings never completely collapse from fire, they may lean and sag and buckle, but collapse?

First time in history, btw, and the video shows a distinctive symmetrical vertical collapse, beginning in the center of the building as the center of the roof falls in on itself. The building then continues down at free-fall speed, collapsing into it's own footprint. Classic controlled demo. And the owner 'gave the order to pull it', don't forget.

Perhaps the building, which was occupied largely by the CIA and support units, was always rigged for demo, and the building owner knew this, and made the decision to collapse it. But controlled demo it was, open and shut, why the hell are we even talking about it.

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“The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous, the essential act of warfare is the destruction of the produce of human labour”

   



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