<strong>Written By:</strong> Dr Caleb
<strong>Date:</strong> 2006-06-28 12:58:00
<a href="/article/125851772-bell-sympaticos-new-customer-service-agreement">Article Link</a>

Bell Sympatico's new customer service agreement, which took effect June 15, is a clear signal the telecommunications industry expects the Conservative government to revive the surveillance law, said Michael Geist, an Internet law professor at the University of Ottawa.

"Everybody expects it's going to be reintroduced," Geist said in an interview. "If anything, [the new bill] will be a hardened approach."

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Dr Caleb writes:

Notice the difference between the posted date (the 27th) and the day the policy went into effect (the 15th)? I believe this will open the markets to ISP that advertise "we log nothing and will not comply with requests for your information".

Me, I encrypt just about everything, so log all you want.







[Proofreader's note: this article was edited for spelling and typos on June 29, 2006]

   

the day will come

no more internet encrypton or not

Ve haff veys off trakink you down
sign ze papers oldt man!!!

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The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing.... : Albert Einstein

   

Me, I encrypt just about everything, so log all you want.<<

I recall a time when you had to agree with MS that you were not in a list of (banned) countries inorder to download a 128bit explorer. I wonder why not now. MS is under close scrutiny and has been revealed that one of their latest downloads (to verify your software is genuine), is infact spyware. Bill Gates is stepping down and one may wonder who will actualy be in charge. When a company is facing the fireing squad on a daily basis and by their own government, one may wonder if they will fold to the pressure. Your computer has never been your own and this is the evidence of that.

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Expect little from life and get more from it.

   

I was wondering when Bill C-74 was going to be resurrected.

A Bill that does away with the need for court authorized warrants to seize internet communication records cannot, regardless of circumstances, be a good thing.

One has to wonder where this foolishness will eventually lead.

Today their justification is "crime prevention", but what will it be tomorrow?

More importantly, what are their true intentions?

The control freaks behind these laws will NOT be satisfied until they have 24/7 surveillance on everyone. Their goal, as far as I can tell, is the complete elimination of personal privacy in any form.

What's next: thought crime?

As noted earlier in the thread, the days of "Your papers please" may not be far off.



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"and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"

"The Weapon" - Rush

   

"Bill Gates is stepping down and one may wonder who will actualy be in charge."

Quite likely the same guy who took over the last time Bill Gates "retired".

Steve Ballmer, BillG's old friend and Microsoft co-founder.

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"and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"

"The Weapon" - Rush

   

Dr Caleb, thanks for posting this one. I was wondering what was happening to that proposed new legislation.

"Me, I encrypt just about everything, so log all you want."

Ah, but they'll still get to log all IP addresses (and URL's) that you visit (or visit you) unless you use a proxy service, or make use of networks such as I2P, Tor, or Freenet (there are a couple others in the works as well).

When the logging starts, the internet will get cluttered with wasted traffic as more people will start using anonymizers. Fortunately, the extra traffic will be offset somewhat by faster internet systems, such as adsl-2.

This is just more idiotic intervention by an out of control and unaccountable system of government. Notice that this legislation is independant of the previous Liberal led government, the current Conservative led government, and the current opposition (Lib, NDP & Bloc). They all agree with it, therefore keep this in mind when the next election comes up. You'll have to vote very different than usual to make a difference, assuming you bother to vote at all.

   

Hm, but wouldn't encryption just raise a big red flag?

Like "Hey, that IP over there is sending a huge bunch of SSL encrypted data!" ?

   

Hey! This is good news.

Anyone naive enough to think that their communication has not been monitored up to now really needs a reality shake.

Folks, your communications have been monitored from the very beginning.

As for encryption.. it's ok so long as you choose your tool correctly and it will only work if no one is specifically watching you (and I mean you personally and not in general).

Best bet.. don't communicate anything you wouldn't want your mother to know over the net. It's not now, nor has it ever been safe.

Smart businesses know that and provision private networks for communications and then overlay that with encryption of a massive level. And even then they regularly check it for intruders.

Bell is simply making it more open than before.

So... what's the fuss. In this case you don't even have the option of voting them out of power because your (Canadian) vote doesn't even affect where they live.

Echelon is word and tool you should learn about.



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No sig. No time!

   

I tend to use only open source products these days. You can ditch MS Windows almost completely for Linux, which has improved significantly over the years.

   

The day where protecting your own privacy is seen as a 'red flag' event is the day I want to hear shooting in the streets.

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"I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden

   

Heh, yeah

But I think there are laws in different countries preventing people from transfering encrypted data, I don't know if Canada has such restrictions...

   

No restrictions whatsoever.



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"I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden

   

1. That the Conservatives would re-introduce legislation originally proposed by the Liberals, dispels the myth once more that the parties are really "different". Or are they both driven by pressure from the US?

2. On the other hand, they may perhaps not be very SWIFT with the proposal (pun intended).

3. Sympatico is not very sympathetic to its customers. Is this retroactivity "negative marketing"?

   

if you have nothing to hide, why be worried? This helps catch terrorists don't you know! They are not bright enough to know that the government watches their phone, internet, and banking transactions.

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If there was ever a time for Canadians to become pushy - now is the time - for time is running out on this nation called Canada.

   

What's kind of funny here is all the people who cry about the evils of "big government" are so gungho when it comes to sucking up to the State ( or states such as China ) when it is deemed useful. One of the results is proprietary bullshit which has made the Internet more complex than necessary. The apparent need for encryption and private networks will make things worse. Anyway opposition to the policies of various political parties can ONLY be effective if mounted from an extraparliamentary opposition which is not attached to those organizations. Activists who try to work through "the system" always seem to end up wasting their time ( like David Orchard in the Conservatives or the old Waffle group of the NDP ). Just some thoughts ...