U.S. Bush administration allies want Canada, along with fran

Written By: jensonj
Date: 2007-03-10 17:14:24
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Dr. Robert A. Pastor, a Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) task force Vice-Chair, is looking forward to the conquest of Canadian resources from oil to drinking water, and hydro power in Quebec, by U.S. Big Business interests linked to the U.S. Bush administration. Indeed, "All the while 'We the People' were largely 'left out of the loop' until CNN's Lou Dobbs exposed the CFR's plans," says Dr. Daneen G. Peterson. The goal of the sought "erasure" of Canada was formally announced by Mr. Pastor, who is the apparent chairperson of U.S. neo-conservatives efforts on North American Union (NAU). Indeed, Dr.. Pastor was actually recorded on video before U.S. Congressional related group, to be pursuing the "erasure" of Canada by 2010. Mr. Pastor envisions that with the "erasure" of Canada, along with the corresponding destruction of the U.S. and Mexico, a new "North America" will emerge, under the control of the "wise men" like himself, of a political-military-industrial complex.

Dr. Peterson further suggests, "Go to SPP.gov and see for yourself. Be sure to put on your propaganda filter before entering the website. Pay attention to how cleverly they clothe their treasonous acts with self-effacing, feel good words like "prosperity".' Be sure and ask yourself... 'prosperity' for WHOM? Definitely not those Americans [and Canadians] whose jobs and manufacturing has already disappeared? Be sure and ask yourself... 'security' for WHOM once they erase our borders and eliminate our sovereignty? Be sure and ask yourself... "partnership: with WHOM and by WHOM?" Thus far it is a partnership between Mr. Harper, Mr. Bush and a handful of political elites in Mexico, in collusion with businesses and the banking community. Neither with the American people, or Canadian and/or their duly elected representatives in the legislature.

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Good luck trying to "erase" Quebec. LoL

Obviously these dreamers don't have any clue about the fact that any act like that would bring the FLQ back to life so fast their heads would spin.

Now consider that this revived FLQ would probably include every adult Francophone in the area, and you will be able to appreciate the US foolishness for what it is.

---
"and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"

"The Weapon" - Rush

Considering the fact that the FLQ never had more than 50 some militants at its peak, the previous statement extrapolating that the entire Québec francophone adult population would now join it in resistance to the rest of North America just goes to prove how exagerrated anything concerning Québec is perceived in the rest of Canada. But hey ! If any one group needs to save Canadians from disappearing altogether, Québecers could be the only ones in the federation with enough guts to rise up and do it (another extrapolation just to stay in the same line of thought...). --- « Il y a une belle, une terrible rationalité dans la décision d'être libre. » - Gérard Bergeron

The chief Canadian architect of the NAU, Tom d'Aquino was on CBC radio on Feb.24, denying any plans for deep integration, or the NAU and ridiculing any talk about it, also the CoC's claims on selling water etc.

According to Tom, the SPP is just another step toward "prosperity".

Would anybody think that he might have been lying his teeth out ?

On the other hand, after Mulroney's 1988. 43 % "majority" ensuring the FTA, the then head of the PQ, Jacques Parizeau declared on Nov.27,'88, that the FTA will be the key to Quebec's independence.

Of course, he was an economist, living in a dream world.

Ed Deak.

michou,

Your generalization, as all others, is WRONG.

While Canadians at large have at least an inkling of what Quebeckers are whining about, alas, Quebeckers don't have a clue what said Canadians think. :-)

)

H.F. Wolff

<blockquote>"But hey ! If any one group needs to save Canadians from disappearing altogether, Québecers could be the only ones in the federation with enough guts to rise up and do it (another extrapolation just to stay in the same line of thought...)."</blockquote> I note that the SPP or the amero has not made headlines in the current provincial campaign in Quebec. Is it possible that there is more SPP/amero news coverage (even if little) in the ROC than in Quebec? Should Michou not be worried about this as une Souverainiste avec le S majuscule? --- "We are all in this together somehow, some more than others somehow"

Michou

That the FLQ never had more than 50 members may be the case, however at the height of whatever power they had they still weren't dealing with anything near what the NAU crowd and their ilk have in mind for Quebec now.

Now tell me with a straight face that the citizens of la belle province are going to quietly accept the deliberate erasure of their culture.

True, I did exaggerate when I stated the size of the revived FLQ (or whatever organization will pick up their torch), but there is no way in hell that the people of a province where close to 1/2 of the population by some polls either support sovereignty or are sympathetic to it are just going to sit there and do nothing when they begin seeing even the rights they have now be eroded if not destroyed by the SPP and NAU.

If that's what the CFR types are hoping for, then they are in for a rude awakening.

---
"and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"

"The Weapon" - Rush

The first thing to go under the SPP and the NAU will, or would be Quebec's language rights, as businesses would have to be legally permitted to ignore them, and sue the governments for their right to use any language, or even against use of both.

As far the SPP and NAU discussed in the English media, no bloody way, as any knowledge would cause an uproar and that's the last thing they'd want.

Now, going back to the FLQ days, one of the bombers convicted was a Hungarian born, French Foreign Legion vet by the name of Francois Schirm. Any idea what happened to that jerk after he got out of jail ?

I use the word "jerk" to any coward who sets bombs, regardless of race, colour, or creed.

Ed Deak.

<a href="http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=Francois+Schirm&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8">http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=Francois+Schirm&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8</a>--- [juris ignorantia est cum jus nostrum ignoramus] 
DO NOT ADJUST YOUR MIND: 
IT IS REALITY THAT IS MALFUNCTIONING- R.A.W.

Now tell me with a straight face that the citizens of la belle province are going to quietly accept the deliberate erasure of their culture.Why wouldn't Québécers accept a loss of culture when Canadians surely have been doing so to the benefit of American culture and doing it without a peep of contest at that ? And who says cultural integration would be a prerequisite or an automatic cause to effect result in this new North American deal ? What the f*@!k does any American care about other people's cultures to begin with ? As long as you hand over your natural ressources, your economic diversity, pay your dues and bow low, they'll probably leave Québec culture and language laws alone. If anyone here is the least connected to Québec these days, then they would know that rightwingers are presently on the rise in La Belle Province. If they make as much headway in our upcoming provincial elections as many believe they will, to be subordinated to a Canadian federated system or to an American one will make no bit of difference to most of them. --- « Il y a une belle, une terrible rationalité dans la décision d'être libre. » - Gérard Bergeron

Quebec is starting to look like l'Union Nationale réincarnée. And VLB is now going ADQ. 
Check <a href="http://www.985fm.ca/mp3_entrevues.php?id=27">http://www.985fm.ca/mp3_entrevues.php?id=27</a># 
Wow! Tout est possible, Boisclair disait. I can hardly wait to watch election nights in Québec.--- "We are all in this together somehow, some more than others somehow"

michoud,

Regarding Canadians absorbing American culture;
suggest you read a book entitled 'Fire And Ice' by Michael Adams. Quite illuminating.

H.F. Wolff

in the warp and weft of it this thread one oght to have a review of said book 
 
<a href="http://www.jordoncooper.com/resources/astartingpoint/fireancice.htm">http://www.jordoncooper.com/resources/astartingpoint/fireancice.htm</a> 
 
before bying a pig in a poke. 
 
If indy is monitoring this thread he will come in his pants with extacy (sp?) in what he find in "fire and ice" 
 
I am not clear on what it is that Wolf finds enlightening in the recomended book 
 
Is there a common halucination? 
 
Will the silent membership of vive exercise their perogitive and offer opinion? 
 
 
 
Most likely not--- [juris ignorantia est cum jus nostrum ignoramus] 
DO NOT ADJUST YOUR MIND: 
IT IS REALITY THAT IS MALFUNCTIONING- R.A.W.

suggest you read a book entitled 'Fire And Ice' by Michael Adams.There is nothing in this book which could have us believe that Canadians have the stamina or even the interest to fight for their sovereignty, whether it be of the cultural, economic or social kind. The paradox is that for those few Canadians who do wish to fight back, the best friends they could ever find to have by their side to fight the good fight are Québec sovereigntists. --- « Il y a une belle, une terrible rationalité dans la décision d'être libre. » - Gérard Bergeron

Agreed that English is my second language and that I may not have the vernacular nor an understanding of the fine nuances down pat...

But I do understand from reading 'Fire And Ice' that there is a significant difference between Canadians and Americans (US citizens) which you may ignore at your peril. It also shows that the excessive exposure of Canadians to US 'culture' has not diminished the differences between Canadians and Americans, and how they see and interact with the world around them.

I seem to recall that during the pro and con debate on 'Free Trade' Quebeckers were vociferous supporters.

Therefore, if you believe that Canadians are any less patriotic than Quebeckers... So be it.

I'll take my chances with Canadians any day. They might not be great tub thumpers, but when the chips are down I'd just as soon rely on a bunch of Canadians with their quiet perserverence.

H.F. Wolff